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LazFX
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quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
one can only take so much no?


MLK??? Ghandi??
Even Christ........ its can also be stated that the past and future treatment of Muslims by some of the West can also be questioned and blamed. But violence only solidifies ignorance on both sides.

Old Post Oct-27-2007 10:56  United States
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Tarpex
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The biggest problem is, that when these sort of bloaks immigrate from a shithole "to the West", they think that they'll arrive in nothing less than Heaven itself, being served at every step, everything in abundance, and not needing to make a sweat for it.
And when that image fails against reality, problems start. We have similar problems here; as being the most developed nation in ex-Yugoslavia by a long shot, we had heaps of immigration from other states. When Yugoslavia bit the dust & the war started a few years later, all hell broke loose. We were one of the main targets for immigration then. Language similarity, "being a true European state", made Slovenia ideal for them.
Now, problems appeared, firstly because they weren't forced to assimilate, language similarity meant that most of them didn't care to learn ours. But that's the smallest of issues.
Every ex-Yugo nation hates every other ex-Yugo nation. And now having a mini-Yugoslavia here, with so many nationalities mixed, old hatreds were up in flames again, and groups sometimes fight each other in a mafia way. (Needless to say, with them here, we became some kind of a hub for human & drug trafficking, weapon deals from-and-to western Europe)
Now, the elders of these immigrants aren't that problematic. Especially those which came here when Yugoslavia still stood ground. They got jobs, didn't cause problems, mostly Muslims and Pravoslavs, but we kinda lived together on a live-and-let-live basis. Now here's where the shit comes; The young generation is fucked. Children of these older immigrants are now, some in early 20's, other teenagers, which have an idealistic image of how their mother nation is ftw, actively deny all Slovenian ways, go with the "no money, no job, no problem" theme, which only leads to crime, violence against innocent people, and all the shit mentioned before in this topic.
I guess that if these bloaks weren't fucked up in the first place, they'd probably have a normal mother-state to begin with, nothing changes with fucked people just changing state colours. This may sound harsh, but anyone living in heavily immigrated European state knows it's no different. Them immigrants have all the options to live a good life, but they deny it on their own will, to be some badass mofos. The fact that 90% of club bouncers are ex-Yugo here, tells something. And we all know what kind of monkeys bouncers usually are.
Of course, European states gave them equal options when they came, "giving a chance to everyone", same welfare thresholds etc, and most of them just exploits it.
Mass immigration didn't do too much good for USA in them days, i bet it won't for Europe either.
Uneducated, violent and mentally limited most of their youth is, i really can't see a change for the good if something radical won't generally be done in Europe, else we'll be fucked beyond the point of repair.


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Originally posted by Magnetonium


Watch a movie called Pursuit of Happyness. It will illustrate my point. A black man out of a poor community who becomes a head of a powerful brokerage firm. TRUE STORY.


That's not the pursuit of happyness, that's the pursuit of money.

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M.Johan
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Re: Growing violence by Muslim immigrants in Europe

Remark:many news reports work on the amplification about these events
,clame that muslims can't deal with the Europian societies.
quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium


Sigh ... this is so sad. First, the massive riots in France, Denmark over some criminals who died of their own fault. Now the "annual" riots and violence against innocent people at the hands of violent immigrant Muslim youth in Belgium, Netherlands, Germany.

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archiv...acked_after.php



Why is it that so many Muslim immigrants who migrate to better living countries in Europe only to become so suicidal, no offense? I am tired of reading so many articles about Muslim immigrant violence in Europe, I know Muslims are better than that. In North America they dont move in and live off welfare and refuse to learn the language! Seriously, they dont expect the government to build their lives, force them to go to school, get jobs, and drop their religious fundamentalism and become normal citizens?

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1384



And then the Belgian immigrants claim discrimination for anti-immigrant "islamophobic" parties coming to power? Seriously ... they should be happy they have an opportunity to build happy and prosperous lives that they couldn't back in their holes in Morocco, Turkey, etc. How is violence suppose to win public sympathy for these people's demand for more attention? Grievances my ass.

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2588



Fukkk ... Jesus Christ, seriously, these Belgian and Dutch Turks and Moroccans, if they're so unhappy living in prosperous EU where the opportunities are endless, they should pick up their asses and move back to their prosperous shitholes back in Morocco and Turkey. I'll even chip in a few dollars as an act of generousity to cover their air expenses.

Turkish flags everywhere??? Mannn, its Belgium, they should be waving Belgian flags everywhere, like at my house there's a CANADIAN flag. These people clearly have no respect for the country they live in - and Belgium and its Kurdish and Armenian populations are not connected and not at fault in any way with the situation around Turkey right now. Idiots.

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/425822/1415902



Sigh ... stupidity is simply amazing. And this violence has gripped other countries in Europe like Germany.

In France
bec. of the xenophobic polices against the immigrants,they're marginalized, many places around Paris are in bad conditiones and have poor utilities so bad.
Don't miss also the discrimnative statements said by Sarkosy against
their riots.Most of them are Africans from Cote Devoir not only muslims.

In Danemark, it's not a free of speech when dissemination of offensive cartoons against the main symbol of the Islam.

In USA for ex. there're many antiwar americans wave foreign flags of the occuppied countries in their demonstrations.Is that means that there's no respest towards their country??!
of course there're some excesses against the security.


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