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Originally posted by jon jon I wouldn't say its made its way here just yet. (I could be way off in this statement but this is my two cents) I know we obviously have a healthy techno scene, but I wouldn't say the movement (that is in my opinion coming) hit yet. I was in Ibiza for 7 days this summer, I heard minimal/techno at EVERY event we went too. It's pretty much swalloed up Ibiza and the rest of Europe at the moment. I think (THIS SPECIFIC - SEE RICHIE VIDEO) formula of techno is going to be the biggest thing to hit our scene in years. It's a totally fucking new genre (techno yes has been around forever, but this specific combination of minimal, hisses, computer melodies has really hit the mark) and it's fucking mindwarping at a party. Agree, disagree? I'm still working on this theory lol

I don't think it will ever fully catch on here in toronto. people like their predictable beats and vocals. people have been playing exactly what you describe in toronto for a few years now and it just hasn't gotten huge...I don't think it will. never to the extent that it occurs somewhere like ibiza or Berlin anyways.

Wow what an epic night! Got there with my friends around 830pm and the lineup wasnt that bad - moved really really well, got in after waiting only 15 min max!

Don't remember who was spinning at the time but they were playing a decent warm up set. Got settled in, chatted with my friends for a bit, explored the club (which i gotta admit is very very nice!) then magda came on.

Haven't listened to much minimal lately, but in the past 2 months or so I've been getting very very addicted to it - especially after loco dice at guv 11 year.

Magda is very unique, I noticed she plays softer melodic minimal with a MASSIVE bassline - fucking great. Her bassline just makes you wanna groove all over the place, she had me going for her entire set.

Marc houle was also on par with my likings - techno vocals live = SEX!!!

Then Hawtin comes on and I gotta say - i've gained a whole new respect to the minimal genre and I'm definately attending as many as i can, so far my minimal folder has been increasing with sets/singles EXPONENTIALLY after this night....
At points during his set there were so many things going on and it was so good that it felt like i was being mindwarped/mindfucked/twisted/(enter other crazy mindfucking word lol) .... it was ridiculous!

I would keep writing what I thought on the night but overall it was an amazing experience and i recommend anyone who thinks minimal is shit to give it a try just once and tell me you dont like it. Minimal at a club is fucking phenomenal....you have to be there to experience it (and i too once said minimal was shit - boy was i wrong!)

HAWTIN IS MINIMAL BLISS

as i've said from the beginning.....minimal always prevails!

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Originally posted by Skipper Guess where the after party was? At Richie's. In his converted fire station loft.

Wow that would have been amazing.

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Originally posted by revival heres the mix http://fred_schnitzel.extra.hu/oh/V...-11-2007-DC.rar

the link dosent seem to work =(

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Originally posted by jon jon I wouldn't say its made its way here just yet. (I could be way off in this statement but this is my two cents) I know we obviously have a healthy techno scene, but I wouldn't say the movement (that is in my opinion coming) hit yet. I was in Ibiza for 7 days this summer, I heard minimal/techno at EVERY event we went too. It's pretty much swalloed up Ibiza and the rest of Europe at the moment. I think (THIS SPECIFIC - SEE RICHIE VIDEO) formula of techno is going to be the biggest thing to hit our scene in years. It's a totally fucking new genre (techno yes has been around forever, but this specific combination of minimal, hisses, computer melodies has really hit the mark) and it's fucking mindwarping at a party. Agree, disagree? I'm still working on this theory lol

I agree that techno hasn't become "the scene" in Toronto and most likely never will but its growth and acceptance is rising quickly which will only be good for techno junkies like myself. Hopefully this will bring over different and new international talents....and maybe we will see some of the larger clubs having Techno nights.

I think the Toronto scene has a lot of people who haven't really heard techno in it true form and you can already see that many TAs have started to fall in love with the Techno sound.

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(apologies for the thread hi-hack Boom Boom Room, but really what better place to discuss the evolution of techno then in a Richie Hawtin review thread)

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Originally posted by Skipper people have been playing exactly what you describe in toronto for a few years now and it just hasn't gotten huge...

I realize I'm out of my depth here (and I appreciate the education), but am I wrong to acknowledge that there was a specific wave of techno this summer that blew up in Europe? I'm basing this on my visits to Spain (Barca/ Ibiza) & London. (comparatively to other times I've been there) That and publications like Mixmag/ DJ Mag hailing techno as the sound of now.

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Originally posted by Skipper I don't think it will. never to the extent that it occurs somewhere like ibiza or Berlin anyways.

Well of course not, lol as if I said that.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I agree that techno hasn't become "the scene" in Toronto and most likely never will

haha why does one scene have to cancel the other one out? I hate when people think that way.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced Hopefully this will bring over different and new international talents....and maybe we will see some of the larger clubs having Techno nights.

Likely.

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Originally posted by jon jon I realize I'm out of my depth here (and I appreciate the education), but am I wrong to acknowledge that there was a specific wave of techno this summer that blew up in Europe? I'm basing this on my visits to Spain (Barca/ Ibiza) & London. (comparatively to other times I've been there) That and publications like Mixmag/ DJ Mag hailing techno as the sound of now.

Having not been to Ibiza this summer or any summer before, I can't really comment on ibiza specifically. I recall being in Berlin in the fall of 2005 and minimal being everywhere...that's when the major transition between electro(house) and minimal seemed to be happening, at least from what I heard at the time.

I personally just don't have faith in toronto being open minded enough to open up to minimal on a widescale basis. the closest we might get is this new Dennis Ferrer/Jimpster/Sebo K/Anja Schneider sound that is a cross between minimal and deep house, but it doesn't have the same punch that the masses have come to love about electro house. I question whether a lot of this is because of the drug scene - in europe, electronic music is far more mainstream and is not just "party music" but music that a lot of people listen to all day long, sober or otherwise. I've read numerous interviews with globe trotting DJs making this same distinction between North America and Europe and their attitudes towards electronic music. For the mainstream in Toronto, I think electronic music is more about partying and having music that goes along with that - and minimal isn't it IMO.

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Originally posted by PurpleHaze Wow what an epic night! Got there with my friends around 830pm and the lineup wasnt that bad - moved really really well, got in after waiting only 15 min max! Don't remember who was spinning at the time but they were playing a decent warm up set. Got settled in, chatted with my friends for a bit, explored the club (which i gotta admit is very very nice!) then magda came on. Haven't listened to much minimal lately, but in the past 2 months or so I've been getting very very addicted to it - especially after loco dice at guv 11 year. Magda is very unique, I noticed she plays softer melodic minimal with a MASSIVE bassline - fucking great. Her bassline just makes you wanna groove all over the place, she had me going for her entire set. Marc houle was also on par with my likings - techno vocals live = SEX!!! Then Hawtin comes on and I gotta say - i've gained a whole new respect to the minimal genre and I'm definately attending as many as i can, so far my minimal folder has been increasing with sets/singles EXPONENTIALLY after this night.... At points during his set there were so many things going on and it was so good that it felt like i was being mindwarped/mindfucked/twisted/(enter other crazy mindfucking word lol) .... it was ridiculous! I would keep writing what I thought on the night but overall it was an amazing experience and i recommend anyone who thinks minimal is shit to give it a try just once and tell me you dont like it. Minimal at a club is fucking phenomenal....you have to be there to experience it (and i too once said minimal was shit - boy was i wrong!) HAWTIN IS MINIMAL BLISS

awesome review. damn i really wish i could have made this party!!!


"techno vocals live = SEX!!!"

OH YEAHHHH!!!

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Originally posted by Skipper I personally just don't have faith in toronto being open minded enough to open up to minimal on a widescale basis. the closest we might get is this new Dennis Ferrer/Jimpster/Sebo K/Anja Schneider sound that is a cross between minimal and deep house, but it doesn't have the same punch that the masses have come to love about electro house. I question whether a lot of this is because of the drug scene - in europe, electronic music is far more mainstream and is not just "party music" but music that a lot of people listen to all day long, sober or otherwise. I've read numerous interviews with globe trotting DJs making this same distinction between North America and Europe and their attitudes towards electronic music. For the mainstream in Toronto, I think electronic music is more about partying and having music that goes along with that - and minimal isn't it IMO.

+1

The more 'educated' EDM lovers might like the transition into minimal, for those casual listeners... Minimal isn't something to be really excited to be about

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by EvilTree +1 The more 'educated' EDM lovers might like the transition into minimal, for those casual listeners... Minimal isn't something to be really excited to be about

I agree with this fully - and also with progressive house too, there's so much more to what makes minimal/techno what they are than what the more 'uneducated' people seem to believe

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Originally posted by EvilTree +1 The more 'educated' EDM lovers might like the transition into minimal, for those casual listeners... Minimal isn't something to be really excited to be about

I agree with this and what Sarah and Jon have said.

Its influence is obviously really large in the house scene that we have here I think. As a seperate genre though, people just don't understand the nuances of the genre imo here like they do in Berlin in Barcelona. I'd say it happened overseas maybe around 2 years ago, I went in 05 and it was huuuuuuuuuuuuge, heard it all over, still hear it now. It will hit its mark but I doubt it'll be played at clubs here in the same way house is. People won't just take to it as easily. (At least for now).

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