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Originally posted by D-res The only thing that bugs me is this. Theres umpteen rules, not every rule applies in certain situations, in other words, theres exceptions to every rule, and more rules to cover those exceptions that don't encompass a load of other things. It's fucking nonsense. The worst part, I was talking to an ex on aim the other night, and she had told me she really enjoyed chemistry. I tried asking her some questions and she could answer some of them, but she had no idea why things were that way. Apparently her class was very straightforward and essentially just told her to memorize this, this and this but never got down to explaining why this, this or this happens. I'm in Chemistry 100 for fucks sake because I never took it in high school, but I'm learning everything she is and more. She could tell me that NO2- was nitrite ion and NO3- was a nitrate ion, but not why one ended in -ite and other in -ate. I don't know how you could learn the differnece without learning about distrubution of electrons in bonding, etc.

I'm with you on that one. They always give you some of the exceptions on the exams. What I've found in those classes is that your grade is always proportional to the amount of problems worked. Work all of the problems in the text and more from a supplementary source if necessary. Reading the text won't do much.

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Originally posted by D-res Maybe I'm just being a lazy pansy bitch, but I can't for the life of me stay concentrated or motivated when it comes to homework and school in general. I'm a couple chapters behind in my chem class and I have SOO much reading to do and notes to take and content to absorb, but its hard to keep from finding something else to occupy my attention when I could care less about chemistry in general. I regret signing up for this class, but I certainly can't give up or then I'm really fucked. I'm wholeheartedly aware of how crucial my education is and how important it'll likely be to staying financially and emotionally secure for the rest of my life. I suppose a good place to start is to NOT post on TA but nevertheless, what do you guys do to keep the motivation? c0r version: If you're too lazy to read the above paragraph I don't want your opinion for that very reason.

I think it just comes down to the fact that you are not really interested in what you are doing. People who enjoy what they do, never complain about these things. If possible, search for the things that interest you most and get an education in that field. You will not only enjoy what you study, but you will also excel professionally.

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Originally posted by twilightki : It feels like something you'd listen to at 4 in the morning, or listen to in your car while you're going in a tunnel.

I like going to school just for the sake of getting a degree, graduating college whatev. I can't wait.
But i found that in order to make good grades i have to study... a lot
Learning is a challenge, most of the time when people are faced with a challenge they do the minmum amount or work or in other words just enuf to get by.
Set higher goals for yourself, celebrate after you get good grades.
Not until
I still don't know what i wanna do EITHER but i know damn well i want a degree.
just enjoy going to school and if you don't enjoy than maybe you do need to take some time off. I hat eworking way more than school though
then again what do i know
i get paid to go to school

I'm sort of in the same position.

I don't like working, and I hate school. I'm only there because I need to eat. I wanted to be a professional critic but there is no such thing. The closest thing to that? Probobly philosophy. So I chose it as a major. I also want to be able to talk out of my ass, and confuse people with esoteric words because it's fun. I pretty much think that the liberal arts are pure shit and require no brain power compared to math and science. It's all perspiration and no brain power to me because liberal arts courses are subjective.

Being a critict/ass hole doesn't pay the bills so I changed my major to accounting, and I might consider changing it to some other business class. I haven't done an accounting/business class yet, but I know I'll hate it because I hate sitting in an office, caged like an animal in a cubical, and I hate playing office politics too.

My dream is to just own a corner store with bullet proof glass so I don't get shot between the counter and the products. That dream is too risky and I just don't want to risk it. I don't want a nice car, i'll take the bus, and I don't want a huge house, just a small apartment. I don't want junk in my apartment either. Living in the bay area is also unreasonably expensive so I have no clue what to do.

If I do graduate in philosophy, I know I'll be paying student loans for quite ahwhile and I'll be starving and working in Mc Donalds. If I don't graduat from college, I'll be working in Mc Donalds. What do I do?

So if you got any advice TA, I'd like to hear it.

Switch from philosophy to chemistry. It worked for me.

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Originally posted by Zild Switch from philosophy to chemistry. It worked for me.

Really wish I'd stuck with sciences into degree level (I did biology for a year then transfere to Business)

Physics, Chemistry and Biology are the only subects I've really had a passion for, I just couldn't see a career in them.

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Me either I'm doing it for fun. Most likely I'll end up starting my own business anyway.

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Chemistry is filled with a whole bunch of whacky rules. I have no idea why things are the way they are in that class, but since I didn't really care about the class, I just memorized it without knowing why. Wait until you get into writing out net ionic equations from word problems (the ones that are ridiculous and the teacher does not explain them at all).

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Originally posted by Internet TufGai I don't like working, and I hate school. I'm only there because I need to eat. I wanted to be a professional critic but there is no such thing.

Sounds a lot like me.

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The closest thing to that? Probobly philosophy. So I chose it as a major.

Ha! Same here.

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I pretty much think that the liberal arts are pure shit and require no brain power compared to math and science. It's all perspiration and no brain power to me because liberal arts courses are subjective.

Yeah, basically. You can be rigorous about the liberal arts if you want. But colleges generally won't require it of you.

In cynical moments, I think that most people go in for them (liberal arts) because they want to give off an aura of "intellectualism" without having to do the hard work of math or the sciences. Or maybe they read a few of the "classics" in high school and got inspired by them (if any of you are in high school now: that mostly doesn't last and the silly "analysis" that goes on in college classes tends to deaden any love you might have had for literature). Or they're just plain slackers who are in college to party and don't want the requirements of classes to get in their way.

So you have four classes of liberal arts majors:
1. Wanna-be intellectual-critic-types (that's me and you).
2. People who have a naive ideas about college and the "life of the mind."
3. Slackers who take liberal arts classes because everybody knows they're easy.
4. And there are a few who just want to teach.



Luckily, I have no student loans because my parents saved a ton of money for college. I've squandered a fair portion of it by dicking around for three semesters, failing most of my classes during that time. Now I'm back again, half-assing it but probably going to pass my classes this time around. After this semester, I should have two more semesters to go if I keep up my current level of "effort."

Like the rest of you, I don't really know what "happened" to me. And maybe saying that something "happened" to me at all would just be a way of excusing my own laziness. Maybe that's it, laziness. I'm just a plain old lazy guy who has the leisure to sit around and bloviate about it because his parents worked harder than he did.

I'm self-critical, cynical about my cynicism, and I know that my type is a dime a dozen. The comfortably middle class 20-something with a big vocabulary gained from years of intellectual dilettantism. Not exactly one in a million, eh?

And I always have the luxury of the aloof "third-person" perspective, laughing at the "idiot" (me) banging out his life story on the keyboard. Watching himself fail from the safety of his own disembodied mind, maybe too afraid to admit to himself that he actually does care about the crapfest he has made of his life.

I guess I could write a book about having every advantage and then flubbing it all anyway, but I bet that there are plenty of those on the market already.

Hopefully all that will resonate with somebody.

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I do pretty good in school, despite my lack of real work. I am a senior. I have good scores on the SAT and the ACT. I've always planned to go to college. It seemed like the natural course of things. In the past week, I've started seriously considering not going at all. There's a social stigma attached not to go to college around me, but I can shake the feeling that I will be wasting my time. My career goal is to own my own business. I'm not sure how a 4-year degree would help me out there. I'm confused about what to do.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN dont argue with the yanks nutter, they know best!

Well, the first question to ask yourself is: "What kind of business do I want to own?"

Seriously, ask yourself definite questions like that one, all the time, and really try hard to answer them honestly. Define the goal, and then lay out the steps to get to that goal. If you have no idea what the steps are, then find someone who has achieved a goal like yours and ask them how they did it.

Don't assume that your priorities will coalesce together of their own accord and present themselves to you as a life plan. You have to do the work. All of it.

Either you will set your life in order and decide where you want to take it, or the exigencies caused by your own failure and lack of direction will drag you along kicking and screaming, and you may end up hating the places they take you.

I learned that far too late. So you have a head start on me and all the idiots like me.