I would be SO pissed if someone would make money out of my music.

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Originally posted by HaeD I would be SO pissed if someone would make money out of my music.

thats right i agree on that.. and i think most djs earn money from their gigs and not from their trax

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! Are you satisfied only by grabbing $$$$$ that you think you deserve? Or is it enough to have made that summers bomb track, and will be forever remembered for that.

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Originally posted by yahoo I don't really understand what's the big deal about this � 2.50, when other shops are even selling exclusive mp3s for 2.5 in pounds... And besides, if you really love a track, is � 2.50 really that much for something you will enjoy for a longer period?? A cup of coffee can be more expensive these days... And as already mentioned, if it's too expensive for you, just have a little patience and I'm sure in a month you will be able to find it somewhere for a cheaper price (Moreover, Beatport getting rich Can't believe the closing of the Vonyc download store has not got anything to do with disappointing sales...)

HMM ITS ABOUT THE MONEY U EARN IF U HAVE A SALARY ABOUT 2000 E 2,5 E arent much but if u are student 2,5E are much enough
and by the way i bought much vinyls despite they cost 12 -13 E each.. but i think its silly to pay for an mp3 file so much money..

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Originally posted by seneca again, it sucks that you choose to be this way because people such as myself can't "make a living" out of music alone and have to resort to other day jobs to sustain life. This takes away time to focus on new music and other related label/production activities. To each their own but if you like it, please buy it.

if i knew all the money i pay goes to producer and of course if prices were lower of course i would pay that money,but gettin labels and other fokers rich isnt what im goin to do

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Originally posted by richg101 you are a f.u.c.k.i.n.g c.u.n.t

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I see both sides of this argument, but I do feel beatport is greedy. If they are going to charge so much for their "exclusive" tracks they should at least buy some decently fast servers and also abolish the ridiculous wav handling fee or change it so it is a per order fee. $1 per track imo (and I know I'll probably get torn apart for saying this) is absurd. I would like to thank seneca for the breakdown because I was curious what it was.

I would love to trade my technics in for some CD-Js to buy digital music off the net. I haven't bought an actual vinyl in years because I just don't have the money to support the hobby but if I had CD-Js I could.

The thing is, I would not buy a mp3 off the net unless I had the DJ setup, they are too expensive as a mp3 alone. As a listener I just buy the cds I can get at the store or if there is something rare I just order it online. Everything else I just get from livesets/radio shows. Now if internet radio shows weren't free I would be more inclined to buy more mp3s from download sites.

Download stores are purely catering to the DJs and not the average listener. For them to reach the average listener they need to cut the price of tunes by quite a bit so that it is actually as cheap or cheaper to buy the tunes than to buy a cd/compilation with those songs on it. Maybe then they will see tunes that only sold maybe 1,000 mp3s selling twice or three times that much. I think an artist would rather their tune be sold 3,000 times at .89 than 1,000 times at 2.49

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Originally posted by weymouth Download stores are purely catering to the DJs and not the average listener. For them to reach the average listener they need to cut the price of tunes by quite a bit so that it is actually as cheap or cheaper to buy the tunes than to buy a cd/compilation with those songs on it. Maybe then they will see tunes that only sold maybe 1,000 mp3s selling twice or three times that much. I think an artist would rather their tune be sold 3,000 times at .89 than 1,000 times at 2.49

A handful of releases are also available @ iTunes, eMusic, Napster and other sites that cater to the casual or avid listener instead of the "DJ". And guess what... they are $0.99 ea. although at a lower quality than what is available at Beatport. So for those who don't like paying $1.99 or more... you have these options if the tracks are available on the sites.

Keep in mind that Beatport is a niche store. iTunes innovated the market of digital music downloads and Beatport caters to the DJs at a higher quality and offers tracks that would be impossible to find anywhere else.

Think of buying a pair of Diesel jeans at a Diesel store and then finding the same pair at a discount outlet. The Diesel store will obviously cost more and the discount outlet may be cheaper b/c of some not so obvious flaws in the quality of the product. But the Diesel store will also have pairs that you can't find anywhere else but their stores.

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Originally posted by iammesol That's what you think.

Haha, I know how it sounds. But I've been thinking about it for a couple years, once I start getting paid music is going to be the hobby #1 in my list of priorities. Fix a limit on myself on how much music per month to buy so that I don't go broke neither, and start "compensating" for all the years of leeching.

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You must be EXTREMELY new onboard. Those "big rich djs" were originally small-time wannabes like the rest of us.

Yeah, I know, and...? Is playing shitloads of tracks that just got released the only way to become a big dj? I know it helps to remain with a fresh sound, but it's definitely not the only way. There is tons of old music out there that can be played and the crowd will think it's new.

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Stop wasting your time here, and go argue somewhere where you actually have some backing to your argument other than "I don't want to"

I have no idea on what are you talking about.

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Originally posted by body125z HMM ITS ABOUT THE MONEY U EARN IF U HAVE A SALARY ABOUT 2000 E 2,5 E arent much but if u are student 2,5E are much enough and by the way i bought much vinyls despite they cost 12 -13 E each.. but i think its silly to pay for an mp3 file so much money..

I'm a student myself, but still I buy quite a lot of tunes each month. The thing is, with all the (illegal) mp3s around, people don't seem to value music that much anymore... Yes, you only buy a digital file, but still that file can give you goosebumps, let your mind wander off, or make you want to party all night long... And all that for only 1,5 - 2,5 euro's most of the time... If your heart is really into music, just set yourself some priorities in spending your money and be a little picky when it comes to buying tracks online... Personally I'd rather spent my money on a good tune than buy a sandwich.

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If you are not buying legal music at all, as stated in the OP, I think that no matter what the price is, you will find it expensive...

Seriously, 1,49E for a track is not that much. Buying music online (Beatport or iTunes or whatever) is already quite an economy over buying CDs (that were vastly overpriced, except for Jazz and Classical).

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I agree completely with your argument, but it sucks that any "producer" should be moaning about not being paid for his labour. Shouldn't producing music be a hobby, rather than a breadwinner. Are you satisfied only by grabbing $$$$$ that you think you deserve? Or is it enough to have made that summers bomb track, and will be forever remembered for that.

No it does not "suck". Making music as a full time job is not the same thing as doing it as an hobby, effort-wise: making a professional album is time consuming: sure some guys can churn out great music even without being pros, and it's not all about the money... but a professional structure that allows artists to live on their profession alone is probably beneficial on the large scale.
That's like saying a scientist should only do his job part time and his goal would be to make a discovery that will make him remembered.

At the end of the day, most music producers (or artists for that matter) have exactly the same problem as you or me: they have to put something to eat on the table and pay the rent. And the rich ones are a small minority.

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anyone know the percentage the producers get from sale of mp3's?

Congrats to the thread starter for being such a dumbass.

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Originally posted by Laeke If you are not buying legal music at all, as stated in the OP, I think that no matter what the price is, you will find it expensive... Seriously, 1,49E for a track is not that much. Buying music online (Beatport or iTunes or whatever) is already quite an economy over buying CDs (that were vastly overpriced, except for Jazz and Classical). No it does not "suck". Making music as a full time job is not the same thing as doing it as an hobby, effort-wise: making a professional album is time consuming: sure some guys can churn out great music even without being pros, and it's not all about the money... but a professional structure that allows artists to live on their profession alone is probably beneficial on the large scale. That's like saying a scientist should only do his job part time and his goal would be to make a discovery that will make him remembered. At the end of the day, most music producers (or artists for that matter) have exactly the same problem as you or me: they have to put something to eat on the table and pay the rent. And the rich ones are a small minority.

Of course it sucks. As soon as you start creating music and accepting further work based on cashing in the check at the end of the project, you've lost part of the allure of the hobby.

Scientist is a crap comparison. They get proper sponsorship and bursaries in order to continue research. Without the $$$$ they can sit at home twiddling their thumbs.

The hobbyist scientist can do little. The hobbyist musician is still as equally creative as a professional one, just without the $$$$ or the time.

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The market is quite new, let the shops find their business models. And don't forget that the price can seem high as Beatport is a monopoly.