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the_gamemaster
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Registered: Apr 2006
Location: Derby/Nottingham, UK

Spelt 'beginner' wrong, or arent we talking about trolling any more?

Old Post Dec-11-2007 19:06  United Kingdom
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Spooky Sounds
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Dec 2007
Location: Rome, Italy

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I like how one legitimate question and 1 joke are somehow "trolls" and "people with nothing to say".


I'm happy to give out tips and share experiences, but it really irks me when people don't even make a minimum effort to figure some basics out on their own. If every single new DJ came in here and wanted a complete explanation on all things DJing starting from 0, this would not be a very interesting forum. Perhaps we should make a "starting points for beginners" post and sticky it...


Two things: How can you know I didn't look for help by myself in the 1st place. I actually did, and nothing. I hate forums (for some obvious reasons, aka, assholes) and this was one of the last things I'd try to do before anything.

Second, your sig quote pretty much tells me what kind of person you are.

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
ok, dude. simply put, you have a computer with something that generates sound in it (a softsynth, meaning software synthesizer, it is a program that generates [or synthesizes] sounds and allows you to tweak it based on different parameters to change this sound into what you want) and then your MIDI keyboard, probably connected to your PC via USB cable will then send the program tone information.

a melody is made up of a progression of different notes. higher, or lower. you must know this because you mentioned having a music background. your synthesized sound will then be played back at you at higher and lower pitch, creating a melody. think of it as playing piano, only you don't have a real piano sound, you get to choose and create the sound it is going to play, but you can control it like it is a piano.

normally, software comes in packages. the packages normally contain:

- softsynths (to generate sound)
- drum machines or drum samples (for.... eh... drumming)
- samplers (to arrange small bits, like say, you record someone playing the drums, you can then seperate it into kicks, snares, and such, and create a sequence with it)
- sequencer (this is what you use to make an arrangement. first 4 bars with drums, then drums + bass, then add melody, and such, this is done in the sequencer)
- effects (to tweak your shit)

now, sound synthesis, MAKING your own sound is a lot more complicated and is a very deep subject. if you're interested, i suggest you google 'How to Make a Noise', it's a free book that guides you through the process. however, i do recommend you get to poking a production program first.

FLStudio is great, don't believe the bullshit some people say about it. i personally know great producers signed to very high profile labels that use nothing but FL.

on another note, one which no one has touched on, you can also choose to not be a DJ, and only be a producer, but to play your music live. it's called live PA. after you get good at producing, and you have enough material (at least about 2 hours of your own music) you can develop a liveshow, and basically give a real EDM concert.


That's some cool info. I assume FLStudio isn't free, so I'll have to save some cash after my trip to NY, but since I'll be there visiting some friends, I'll make sure I talk with some DJ's. One of my friend's friend has a DJ set up and I'd like to try out mixing some stuff.

I didn't get the sequencer part though, especially the bars bit. Care to explain? or would it be alot easier to understand if I had the program right infront of me?


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Old Post Dec-12-2007 00:38  Italy
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Clovis
techno jungle shit



Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by Spooky Sounds
Two things: How can you know I didn't look for help by myself in the 1st place. I actually did, and nothing. I hate forums (for some obvious reasons, aka, assholes) and this was one of the last things I'd try to do before anything.


You looked and found NOTHING?

How do you think the rest of us figured it out? I READ the forums for months before starting to ask questions, to avoid being as ridiculously vague as "how do you DJ?".

Even a quick google search reveals hundreds of pages of tips, tutorials and videos.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...G=Google+Search


How about youtube?

http://youtube.com/results?search_q...j&search=Search


quote:

Second, your sig quote pretty much tells me what kind of person you are.



Hooray for stupid assumptions. It was a joke from an MSN conversation with a forum moderator. Don't take things too seriously around here.


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Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

Old Post Dec-12-2007 00:59  France
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Spooky Sounds
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Dec 2007
Location: Rome, Italy

Right, does any of this (other than the links provided) help me at all? no, so if you want to be an ass, please, feel free to add me to MSN, I have no prob with that at all, or PM me, but stop ruining my thread.

As for your sig, um..still, it's not funny at all, inside joke or not.

Wait, I see ur French, is it something to do with me cuz I'm Italian, cuz honestly, French ppl never liked me and I never liked them, but I tried to be nice.


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Clovis
techno jungle shit



Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by Spooky Sounds
Right, does any of this (other than the links provided) help me at all? no, so if you want to be an ass, please, feel free to add me to MSN, I have no prob with that at all, or PM me, but stop ruining my thread.

As for your sig, um..still, it's not funny at all, inside joke or not.

Wait, I see ur French, is it something to do with me cuz I'm Italian, cuz honestly, French ppl never liked me and I never liked them, but I tried to be nice.



Would be happy to answer your questions on MSN.


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Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

Old Post Dec-12-2007 01:02  France
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Spooky Sounds
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Dec 2007
Location: Rome, Italy

Aw man! After I got back from work at 4 AM (I don't have school for winter vacation) I tried out FLStudio7. What an amazing experience! hahaha, call me dumb or whatever, but I started doing some random stuff with a beat that idk how I made and my gf and my cousin said it was actually fairly good. Still not close to anything at all though, because I have no idea how to repeat what I did.

I'm definitely getting the real version of this program and making some songs to put up here. Let's see wut u think.

Also, I badly need a MIDI keyboard. The only "notes" that fit together seemed to be the ones played with "I" "O" "P" and "U" or some of those with a PC keyboard. I even did the "Stormy Skies" part starting at around 1:13 of the new PvD CD (In Between).

Awesome, lol. Now I just need the gear, more practice, and some tips from the pros.


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Inertia
yes.



Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic

FL is great. but don't get married to it right away. try out other packages before deciding.

you can mostly find demo versions online.

other popular ones are:

Ableton Live
Propellerheads Reason
Cubase
Logic (mac only)


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Old Post Dec-13-2007 19:22  Dominican Republic
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Inertia
yes.



Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic

oh, and you don't NEED a midi keyboard, but it does make stuff easier, as mentioned. i threw it in there seeing as you have a background in music, working your way around production will probably be easier if you have something like a normal musical instrument in front of you.


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Spooky Sounds
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Dec 2007
Location: Rome, Italy

Ya, definitely will. I just made one cool rythem with the lightspeed thingie. The other from last nite sounded good because we were probably drunk and rly tired, haha.

Anyways, I have a problem. I want to make the measure or beats thingie longer, but I have no idea how to.


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Beatflux
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Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Planet Alf

quote:
Originally posted by Spooky Sounds
Right, does any of this (other than the links provided) help me at all? no, so if you want to be an ass, please, feel free to add me to MSN, I have no prob with that at all, or PM me, but stop ruining my thread.

As for your sig, um..still, it's not funny at all, inside joke or not.

Wait, I see ur French, is it something to do with me cuz I'm Italian, cuz honestly, French ppl never liked me and I never liked them, but I tried to be nice.




You WORKED at a club where you could of taken a break or come on your day off to see what's it like, but yet you decide to hop on TA and post on the forums which you insist was one of your last options. If your friend has DJ equipment, I would think he would show you what it's all about, unless he's weird or something.

Give me a break.


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quote:
Originally posted by dj_alfi
change your avatar for fucks sake.

Old Post Dec-18-2007 05:36  Trinidad and Tobago
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Spooky Sounds
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Dec 2007
Location: Rome, Italy

Right, I did say I worked at a club, which I did say that the DJ's left before I finished working or I left before cuz I had school the next day. On a day off? Some people are actually busy and have more of a life than others. Maybe u don't understand the concept of being 17 and living pretty much alone (with my 23 yr old cousin). I clearly don't HAVE free time, otherwise I would be working! I have to A) Go to school B) Do homework and projects C) Be with my gf and D) go to football practices (soccer). Also, I said my friend when I used to live in NY did have a DJ equipment, but we always ended up playing guitar and drums when I went over. I wasn't into trance as much as I am now, anyways.

Also, u guys take this as an insult, I mean...wut's the fun of a place where everyone knows how to do everything?

Oh PS: Now that I'm on vacation and my football season is on a break, I CAN go on a day off.


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Hasneez
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anyone thinks this is worthy of sticky?

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