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I'd disagree on Psy needing to be organic. What I'm getting from this discussion is the idea that trance isn't trance anymore. Most of Goa and Psy along with more 'mainstream' trance doesn't really do what it's name suggests it should anymore. Very rarely do I hear a mix, either psy, goa, or from the wider trance genre which just makes me zone out like some of the old stuff does. A build and break-down in less than 5 minutes doesn't do it for me. Sure most tracks in Goa/Psy are still quite a bit longer but Trance in general has radically changed from what it was 10 years ago. Is it still 'Trance'? If the question is does this sound like trance from a decade ago then no it's not 'trance'. Yes Skazi use guitar a little more freely than say IM did/does and certainly a lot more than anyone before in Psy, but to say because it's not Psy puts it outside anything else because I doubt you'd find anyone in the Metal community who'd call it metal. It's cross-over but it's origins in Metal and Psy are very evident. I'm sure you could put these guys up at any metal bar or any EDM club and hear the same debate from either side. Psy for me never induced trance dance, or any real deep state of trance. It always feels/felt too mechanical (that's not to say robotic and rigid) to go into trance the same way Goa makes me. That's just my thoughts, I welcome any disagreements people may/will have.
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See, I never disagreed that guitar had influenced Goa trance in a certain way. Of course it did. After all it descended from Psychedelic Rock. Its a so well-known fact, its basically undeniable. However, that rock guitar was utilized in a COMPLETELY different way from the way it is being utilized in nowadays "psy" rock, is also a fact worth agreeing to. Guitar was meant to blend in with depth of a track, in so creating....a harmony of some sort, I'd say. When you had electric guitar, a wide variety of synths and a great deal of percussion, the music became hypnotic and brought a lot of people close enough to the phenomena of "Trance Dance". Today the guitar is DEFINITELY standing out from the harmony of music. In our current example, Skazi, you may notice that guitar is playing perhaps the main role in tracks. It is pre-looped, re-sampled with a bunch of effects layered on top that your ears are ready to pop-out of your head. All is fine and dandy. If only...yes, if only it was as psychedelic (hence the name Psy trance) enough to make the audience get into that true hypnotism that was intended originally with the music. Instead what we see is a bunch of people going to a rock concert to see a "rock band" that is not even loosely associated with psy trance. Neither by music, nor by the behaviour. The only association that is present here is that they (for some strange reason) get labeled as psy-musicians. Overall, psychedelic music needs to be ORGANIC. It needs to have vast amounts of sounds, atmosphere, percussions to make a person listening to it feel hypnotized and relaxed. That is why open air parties are so important. Now compare that description to Skazi's music. Any similar?
Here's a review of his latest album by a leading psy-review website.
Hope that helps to prove my point abit.
http://www.psyreviews.net/index.php...d=322&Itemid=46 |
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