woman or women that is the question

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy woman or women that is the question

fucking eric! lol

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by vcakes Then surprise her...take her out dancing or do something different...flirt with her...be naughty and see if you can get her to try anal.

the difference between people like you and people like me is that (as previously mentioned) you have to get her to TRY anal. i MAKE them do anal.

and then i cum in their ass and do a super-nintendo-like celebration dance. with twirling and arms in the air involved... and then i say "take that bitch" and strut about the room shaking my bits and pieces like a helicopter.

THIS ONE'S FO' NORTH CAROLINAAAAA!

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Originally posted by Arbiter Love is only an idea -- if you believe you are in love, then you are in love, because that's what love is. Therefore, the opposite is true too: if you believe you are no longer in love, then you are necessarily correct.

i agree. to the OP- do your thing, you're the only one who knows what's best for you.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I guess to address the original thread topic - is it possible to fall out of love? Well, several ancient philosophers deify love as some sort of eternal presence, and not that I disagree with them, as I still feel for every woman I have loved in some way (yet I don't...it's complicated), [...] It's utter foolishness, to be in love. Not that this would ever effectively deter us from feeling its pangs - or fangs, as it would be.

Well you've effectively summed up my state of mind for the past week.

I don't know what to say really - some things aren't meant to last despite how much we might want them to. You've been with her for a long time, but it seems that she has changed considerably since you married her, and it's probably safe to say that she isn't the same woman you once fell in love with. In the end, this can only be a personal decision. If I were you, I would think about all of the things that you do love about her. If it is difficult to think of any things in the present tense, than perhaps it will be better for you both to move on.

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Not to be an emo bitch here, but I am genuinely overwhelmed with such an enormous and very sober response from you folks. Thanks for all the words of collective wisdom. <<"GROUP HUG">>

Not to single out, but Astronica - didn't you read about Sodom and Gommorah? There's no room for that kind of nookie in our life anymore

I wrote a very LOOOOOOOONG story to put some things in perspective but decided to change it to CORe to spare the details. And damn, it's still pretty long. So, here's a semi-cor version.

I'm Jewish, my wife is Armenian Christian (by birth). I have a half-brother from my dad's first marriage, who converted to Messianic Judaism, while I retained strong affinity for my Jewish roots, even though I'm not very religious.

My half-brother and his wife came to my house as missionaries and quite successfully turned my wife to this "Messianic Jew" nonsense (which to me is as oxymoronic as "Sober Drunk" or "Smart Idiot".)

My wife's submergence into religion has drastically affected our marriage - we no longer share same interests (aside from kids), she no longer respects our agreement not to influence kid's choice of religion, and totally disregards my desire not to discuss why I need to be more spiritual. She does not necessarily force me to convert to be a Christian but she wants me to be more religious and does want me to start considering and making plans for having Jesus in my life, as otherwise I can't be saved

She further feels that:
- Halloween is a pagan holiday, worshiping the dead and satan, so I can't go trick or treating with my son.

- (as a sarcastic joke, I suggested that X-mass is also a pagan holiday) She found some proof (e.g. some half-assed video online) substantiating that in fact it is and therfore she now does not celebrate x-mass, so - no xmass celebration in our house.

- I now cannot curse around her, cannot gossip about anyone, and cannot say blasphemous things or take lord's name in vain. To which I exhaulted "Jesus fucking Christ, are you hearing your goddam self? You can't be fucking serious!" (sorry to offend anyone) - she didn't like it very much.

- She thinks that she's Jewish. Yes. I know. Yup. Aha. Jew. Who never converted. That's affirmative. Yes, she does believe in Christ, nice of you to ask. Aha. What's that? Oh, yes - she does go to Synachurch - erm, temple where "so called jews pray to the holly trinity". That's right. You're on your way? Great see you here. Please make sure that the straight jacket you're bringing is size "medium". Ok, buh bye.

- We now do not have cable, basic channels only, football is OK, southpark is ok as long as she's out of the room. Family guy - the same.

- All my pr0n (which she actually used to watch even by herself quite often before J.C. came along) was nearly thrown in trash, miraculously rescued and stashed away in a safe place.

- I am now not supposed to drink to solve my problems. In her opinion, the only way I can resolve my problems with her becoming a religious nut is to... that's right, accept Jesus.

- She also feels the need to tell everyone "the good news" and is not too humble to tell her mom how she should live her life (that's while her mom works 3 jobs and her only relief is watching some russian TV, which according to my wife is "polluting her brain"). Meanwhile my wife worked for about 8 months in our entire marriage.

A conversation about her choices few days ago resulted in her telling me how I am thankless pig, because I don't notice all the improvements that happened since she found God - like her running errands, making phone calls about matters, sorting the bills, and doing house work. She tells me I only see the negatives and we're all thankless a-holes for trying to keep her off the proper path, and to prove her point, she kicked a big hole in the wall, because nothing screams "I'm right" more than a nice hole in the wall to greet me every time I come home now.

Speaking of holes, I don't remember last time I had some nookie. Something I used to regularily get and took for granted is now not only not offered but also not very much desired due to all the shit that's going on. So, Astronica's suggestion is purely out of the question.

all the talking is really pointless, because every time we start a conversation, she says - "the Bible tells me that my path to salvation will be covered with obsticles and people who would seek to deter me, even my own immediate family, but I must be strong and resist, as salvation comes only to those who are strong and stand fast".

So, that's pretty much it... in a nutshel.

Yes, but do you still love her?

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Originally posted by jennypie Yes, but do you still love her?

i can't say it with a 100% certainty anymore. I care about her. I don't want to cause her pain but I also can't live with her being like this and be happy. It's like a giant glass wall is between us. We can see each other but we can't break through it. You know? I think she's a good mother (all the religion aside) and I do see the positives... I guess I do love her but it's not passion that we used to have. It's one thing when passion trickles away with years and turns to something else, it is as if the switch was flipped and now it's just gone. I dunno. It's hard to explain. I find her choice is affecting me in the way that I can't seem to swallow it. I feel restricted - like I'm Persian and I have to chose my words carefully now. Simple joys I could share with her before, I can't do now.

Like I bought her a ticket to see Chris Rock, she didn't wanna go because it's in a casino and he's cussing. Besides, she "doesn't like this kind of raunchy humor now".

so, it's like the things that used to attract me to her - feeling free, feeling respected and respecting her, being able to tell each other anything is now somehow gone. I can't share with her like I used to be able to. Heck, I can't even tell her my raunchy nasty thoughts in bed (something she used to get off to).

does it make any sense?

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Originally posted by emc^2 i can't say it with a 100% certainty anymore. I care about her. I don't want to cause her pain but I also can't live with her being like this and be happy. It's like a giant glass wall is between us. We can see each other but we can't break through it. You know? I think she's a good mother (all the religion aside) and I do see the positives... I guess I do love her but it's not passion that we used to have. It's one thing when passion trickles away with years and turns to something else, it is as if the switch was flipped and now it's just gone. I dunno. It's hard to explain. I find her choice is affecting me in the way that I can't seem to swallow it. I feel restricted - like I'm Persian and I have to chose my words carefully now. Simple joys I could share with her before, I can't do now. Like I bought her a ticket to see Chris Rock, she didn't wanna go because it's in a casino and he's cussing. Besides, she "doesn't like this kind of raunchy humor now". so, it's like the things that used to attract me to her - feeling free, feeling respected and respecting her, being able to tell each other anything is now somehow gone. I can't share with her like I used to be able to. Heck, I can't even tell her my raunchy nasty thoughts in bed (something she used to get off to). does it make any sense?

I think you just answered your question right there.

It sounds like it's only a phase. If you keep insulting her "new" thoughts though, however silly they may be, she may feel even more justified in perpetuating this sort of thought. Xtians get off on that whole persecution thing.

I think she may be having an affair with some guy named Jesus though. I'd definitely watch her closely...

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