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Paradox Lost
In This Twilight



Registered: Aug 2007
Location: San Francisco

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Because it's fucking boring and pointless. Lug your records/tracks around like the rest of us or do something cool with the fucking computer imo.


Yeah, I think the convenience factor of not having to carry around your vinyl is lowest on the list of Ableton's various features and benefits.

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quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
Yeah, I think the convenience factor of not having to carry around your vinyl is lowest on the list of Ableton's various features and benefits.
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Clovis
techno jungle shit



Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
Yeah, I think the convenience factor of not having to carry around your vinyl is lowest on the list of Ableton's various features and benefits.



Thats not an excuse anyway. The dude has people who carry & setup his equipment just like they would his records. All Sasha has to do at gigs is show up and remember cigarettes.


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ibizzzaaa
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Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC

quote:
Originally posted by TranceArmstrong
Good interview. What do you all think of Justice / Simian Mobile Disco / Boyz Noise? Sasha says they're new and exciting. I think they're fun and all but I can't see myself spinning primarily that kind of music seriously, just screams 'hipster' to me.

I think they are all boring. The whole 80's synthpop revival felt fun to me when I discovered The Faint's 1999 and 2001 albums "Blank Wave Arcade" and "Danse Macabre." Both beat the shit out of the new Justice album in the aspect of musical ideas and lose by a small margin in the aspect of sound engineering only because The Faint had to work on a much smaller budget and recorded all those tracks like 7 years earlier.

All those acts mentioned in the interview just mechanically recycle the 80's sound and plug in the "electro" bassline, wow big fucking deal. That is just soooo cool and original. It's all trends. Pitchfork gave a rave review on Justice and shit all over MSTRKRFT, that is why everyone listens to Justice and only certain people listen to MSTRKRFT.

It's kind of upsetting that one of the most respected dj's in the world thinks that these kinds of artists are a breath of fresh air.

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RJT
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Registered: Oct 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Thats not an excuse anyway. The dude has people who carry & setup his equipment just like they would his records. All Sasha has to do at gigs is show up and remember cigarettes.




+1 - the last couple of years (save for a show or two) have been pitiful.


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david.michael
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Dayton, OH, USA

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The operative word being "worth". The worth of an MP3 release is a lot less than the worth of a vinyl one.


I think the amount of "quality control", while not entirely all-encompassing, is affected by the fact that "anyone" can release an mp3 or start a digital label, whereas not just any Joe Schmoe has the ability to press vinyl records all day and send them to anyone they want without cost.

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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by thoughtlessjex
Is there something wrong with that? He wants the same sound without the work of carrying it around. Sounds fair to me. It's only given that he'd have to go through a process of learning how to DJ again.


It's the much-touted Maven thing that gets me. Sasha is one of the most high-profile "Ableton DJs" and yet by his own admission he is not using Ableton for anything close to its potential.

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I think the amount of "quality control", while not entirely all-encompassing, is affected by the fact that "anyone" can release an mp3 or start a digital label, whereas not just any Joe Schmoe has the ability to press vinyl records all day and send them to anyone they want without cost.


Good point.


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
It's the much-touted Maven thing that gets me. Sasha is one of the most high-profile "Ableton DJs" and yet by his own admission he is not using Ableton for anything close to its potential.



Indeed...one really wonders...after all the hype and work and "proving time" wtf is the point?


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DOOMBOT
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Clovis, you are making some pretty ignorant statements.

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Stasis
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: New England

quote:
Originally posted by TranceArmstrong
Good interview. What do you all think of Justice / Simian Mobile Disco / Boyz Noise? Sasha says they're new and exciting. I think they're fun and all but I can't see myself spinning primarily that kind of music seriously, just screams 'hipster' to me.


I don't think you should write off a subgenre of music due to the social scene surrounding it. Just cause hipsters happened to have picked up on the Justice/Digitalism thing shouldn't impact your view on it.

That's like saying, I kinda enjoy this hip-hop music thing, but I don't know, if just seems to scream "black people" to me.


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DiegoParra32
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Registered: Jun 2007
Location: Orlando, Florida

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Clovis, you are making some pretty ignorant statements.


when isn't he lol

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stevebutabi
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Registered: Apr 2003
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I have a hard time breaking down what's happened to Sasha over the past few years. Until he started using ableton, I really thought his sound was unparalleled in quality, both in terms of track selection and mixing. Even at the very beginning of the ableton 'era' I still was into his sound. I think the point at which he fell off was the release of Fundation.

That album really threw me for a loop because it was so un-reflective of the Fundation NYC parties during the previous summer. They were massive, especially the night with JZ (I might be biased on that one, as I got to party in the booth that night).

Anyhow since then, aside from his sets with John, which are consistently brilliant, I can't really identify one single Sasha set that I'd listen to more than once. I've found his sound really average, with sets that have a couple of interesting moments, but that's all. That's not to say that I haven't had fun at one of his live shows since then.

That being said, I can't really complain about his Emfire productions, as I think they're all quite good. Plus I think the band concept with COMA is unique and interesting.

Do I miss the pre-ableton Sasha? yeah, big time, but that's progressive music - always changing! Hopefully his current averageness will 'eat itself and spit out' something better.

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