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Originally posted by palm
depends on what mainstream we talk about, do we talk about mainstream edm (avb, tiesto etc) or just mainstream (mtv,viva). of course u dont hear oliver lieb on mtv but u find oliver lieb tracks in all djs playlist the last 10 years


avb and tiesto might be mainstream for us, but for regular people even they are sort of underground. depends a lot what the country is though. and i think unfortunetly a lot of avb and tiesto fanboys don't really respect oliver lieb, nor have they even heard that many of his tunes.


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Ahhh some hilarious replies in this thread...especially Pryda.


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Originally posted by sljiva
And "underground" should respect them because they perfected the technique that's partially responsible for bringing anthemic and epic trance to us? I don't think anyone should respect that kind of originality. That's like saying let's respect Benny Benassi for inventing/popularizing that farting bassline in house music (or whoever did that).


The underground respect Daft Punk (according to this thread) and their innovations brought about an absolute slew of mainstream house records. And you cite The KLF, who inspired a monumental amount of crap in the early 90s.

That's beside the point though. Salva Mea and Insomnia crossed over into the mainstream, and then bastardised, watered down poppy imitations came out of the woodwork. That's a frequent sympton of being underground yet having mainstream success. You say The Chemical Brothers were a respected, innovative act, yet their big-beat sound was subject to all kinds of shitty mainstream imitations in the mid-90s. That's what happens. It seems hypocritical to praise the Chems or The KLF and condemn Faithless, and even if you don't like them, saying they never innovate is plain libel.

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And you're right, I've never listened to No Roots. I couldn't be bothered after I've heard couple of awful tracks off it (Miss You Less See You More, I Want More). But I'll believe you if you say it's good (although this ("big house anthems melt into acoustic ballads, hooks, vocals and lyrics are shared and scattered throughout") kind of recommendation doesn't really encourage me to listen to it).


I didn't say it's "good". It's a decent album, but not their strongest. What it is, is innovative. You claimed Faithless never innovate, No Roots is an innovative album.

I can see why you'd be hesitant to include Faithless on this list, because in recent years they've had an irritating habit of vomiting coffee-table MOR pap uncontrollably. They've done a capital job of destroying their own reputation, especially after going back on their "retirement" and releasing a terrible album afterwards.


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