oh one more thing ttc...

join the rest of the world and start accepting credit cards for fare payment!!

what day would the strike start on?
I heard it would start on weds if they did do it

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker So what, we should pay token watchers $60k + pension/benefits? NO way. Replace them with machines like every other city in the world.

Is it really 60K? hah wow what a joke

I agree with you on this one RJ, machines ftw lol

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker Fire them all.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 This is exactly why toronto is going broke. I say fire them all and rehire at normal non union wages

and that's how its done folks.

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Don't know if this has been posted yet,

But the strike has been pushed back right now...

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Union President Promises 48 Hours Notice Before TTC Job Action Friday March 28, 2008 CityNews.ca Staff There's hope a TTC strike may not happen next week after all, as contract talks continue between the transit commission and the workers' union. At a press conference Friday, union president Bob Kinnear promised at least 48 hours notice before any job action. "The last thing we want to do is frustrate an already frustrated public out there," he acknowledged. A published report suggests the union representing subway, streetcar and bus operators, Amalgamated Transit Union Local 113, has postponed next Tuesday's strike deadline until later in the week. Kinnear said that he had been in talks with Councillor Adam Giambrone and they both agree on the timeline. "The TTC has finally indicated their position to us. We had constructive dialogue yesterday for probably 9 or 10 hours which is a positive sign." They both agreed to "advise the public so they can make alternative plans," Kinnear said. But he doesn't speak for the ATU. A provincial conciliator got involved in the talks Thursday with the aim of bringing both sides back to the table after the ATU walked away from negotiations earlier this week. The main sticking point appears to be compensation for workers injured or assaulted on the job. Currently the 8,900 workers affected only receive 75 per cent of their pay if they're absent because of an injury sustained during working hours. The union wants to see that rise to 100 per cent. The transit union has said it would be willing to talk past the strike deadline if progress is being made. Earlier this month they rejected an offer that included a two per cent increase each year over four years. Meanwhile, TTC signal operators, represented by CUPE Local 2, voted 94 per cent in favour of a strike this week. Their contract expires Tuesday which means they could walk next week even if ATU Local 113 doesn't.

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Wow...there is some serious naivetee going on here.

You all despise unions? Ok, the TTC union tends to stir up a lot of shit, but really people...if you think corporations are the ones who fought for realistic working weeks, job security, health benefits and worker's right to things like safety, etc...then you need some serious wake up calls.

There was a reason for the formation of unions and mass general strikes in the western world during the last two centuries. Read some fucking history.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 Wow...there is some serious naivetee going on here. You all despise unions? Ok, the TTC union tends to stir up a lot of shit, but really people...if you think corporations are the ones who fought for realistic working weeks, job security, health benefits and worker's right to things like safety, etc...then you need some serious wake up calls. There was a reason for the formation of unions and mass general strikes in the western world during the last two centuries. Read some fucking history.

Thats exactly where unions belong. In history. They have served their purpose. Now they have become a cumbersome largesse that tends to promote inefficiency and expense. If you were to argue that unions are necissary in a place like China id agree with you. But at this stage in canadian society they are more a burden than a builder. Unless of course you are one of their overpaid workers.

so you want to strip the Canadian worker's right to organise? In some work environments (such as industry, public service) still require unions because corporations are always looking for ways to fuck their workers. Believe me, I've seen it first hand.

Five years ago when I had my city job in London I was looking after a facility during a lacrosse tournament. Some kid got his face smashed with a stick and there was blood all over the glass and floor and it was my job to clean it up. Trouble is there were no latex/rubber gloves that I could use so I refused to do it. My supervisor went ape shit after the coaches bitched so I called my union/HS rep and he came down. Turns out that kid had fucking Hep C and my "serve the corporation at all cost" boss didn't care if I was protected or not.

That kind of shit happens all the time in the work industry. In some environments (offices, etc), unions are perhaps not necessary but my mother is a prime example of someone who has a good job but no job protection at all and could be walked out at a minute's notice if they find someone younger or want to cut costs. And some unions (like the TTC) are far too stubborn but the moment you take the right to organise away is just another liberty being eliminated. Corporations already run our fucking lives...you want to hand them an entirely unprotected workforce?

I thought you loved civil liberties Jay?

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PS. I hate public transportation in general. I'd rather pay more and pollute the environment then have to rely on Public Transportation...FUCK!

Wow, aren't you so damn clever.

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