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Dj Nacht
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Everyone has different opinions on what underground music is. For me it doesnt have to be strange. There are so many amazing songs being produced out there that probably wont ever be played on a club speaker here in Canada. These artists don't get any recognition over here, everyone is to busy waiting for deadmaus and eric Prydz to release a new song.

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elFreak
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Registered: Feb 2008
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You know the rules and so do i
A full commitments what Im thinking of
You wouldnt get this from any other guy

I just wanna tell you how Im feeling
Gotta make you understand

* never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
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Your hearts been aching
But youre too shy to say it
Inside we both know whats been going on
We know the game and were gonna play it

And if you ask me how Im feeling
Dont tell me youre too blind to see

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Johnny Jon
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Registered: Mar 2003
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Nothing to do on a saturday night except beat hunting and reading a guy posting Rick Astley lyrics. Hehehehe good one chief

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elFreak
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Registered: Feb 2008
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its sunday afternoon for me


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fullhouse
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Registered: Mar 2008
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Wrong.. Everyone has different opinions on what good music is. Underground music is a word with a definition. You happen to like certain types of underground music that most people don't, and that's why the artists of the sub-genre don't get as much recognition as Deadmau5 and Eric Prydz (whose productions from the old school were underground). Because Pjanoo by Eric Prydz is number one on Beatport.

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elFreak
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lol prydz old school?

jesus christ man....derrick may is old school, prydz is a fucking baby...come on n00b.

ps his breakout hit was call on me....fucking so underground man.

just stop it.


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fullhouse
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Registered: Mar 2008
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good job with contradictions man
breakout was call on me
remind me what the fuck a breakout is ?

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fullhouse
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Registered: Mar 2008
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when you don't know what you're saying
spare others the nuisance
im an eric prydz afficionado...more specifically a pryda afficionado
and empirical evidence says he was producing waaay before call on me
n00b

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julien2
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Montreal

quote:
Originally posted by fullhouse
you guys don't seem to understand the backbone of a joke...
its easy to say what underground isn't, in which case you are actually pretty wrong,

underground music is defined by its distance from mainstream music, its originality, and is thus made with specific tastes
so 3 kids in a dark room making unmarketable creepy self absorbed music
is actually the essence of the underground

this exodus of producers you're describing is very likely, and it's too
bad... but if there was a crowd big enough to make a living off, they
wouldn't be leaving right? so we got a big group of people that enjoys
the same music... where's the problem ? together as one
there's ALWAYS room for improvement and innovation is invited.
whether rave.ca is a joke for me and for you it doesn't change the fact
some of these kids listen to music you definitely won't hear anywhere
else.
UNDERGROUND.

one point on which i 100% agree though is that ARIA was one of a kind.
there is nothing comparable today in the city, at all.



ok, i understand why you didnt get the comment. I meant to say: Undergound doesnt NECESSARILY MEAN 3 kids in the dark room.... I meant it can be bigger than that and still be "underground".

As I stated earlier, you are right about the market issue. If there is a market, there is a way. But in the Montreal case, the market has shifted from the underground to the mainstream very quickly, resulting in the massive exodus of many producers. Why ? Crowd got older, resulting in lesser revenues. The young (poor) crowd would not support the same music as the crowd that preceded.

Rave.ca does throw "underground" events, but they tend to be full of HHC kids who sing the same HHC and trance anthems that were sung in the beginning 2000s. I dont necessarily believe that innovation is the motto of that community. Although the community has a strong fan base and parties are attended by many.

Aria was an era. Now its over. I dont think nostalgia is a solution either. But there is a lot to learn of the global EDM market when you see a club like Aria (which had its qualities but made mistakes) shift to a commercial music oriented club, even if the town is already saturated with them.

Now, Together as one listening to Britney Spears is getting kind of a problem. Spears is fine. Her fans are fine. Commercial music is fine. They all have their purpose in the big musical food chain.

But I believe we must ask more from our promoters

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julien2
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Montreal

quote:
Originally posted by fullhouse
Wrong.. Everyone has different opinions on what good music is. Underground music is a word with a definition. You happen to like certain types of underground music that most people don't, and that's why the artists of the sub-genre don't get as much recognition as Deadmau5 and Eric Prydz (whose productions from the old school were underground). Because Pjanoo by Eric Prydz is number one on Beatport.


I dont believe I was making a general comment on what good music is. But my comment was a general remark on the music market in Montreal. And speaking from that perspective, Pryda, Deadmau5 are underground too.

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VDub
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Registered: Feb 2008
Location: Toronto

You know what guys???

The same arguments are being had here in Toronto as well...

To me, minimal techno is a contradicion in terms....

I'm into the hard bangin stuff as well...

Techno is supposed to drive you into a frenzy not put you to sleep..

Now that being said, there are a coupla tracks i can listen to and enjoy...

Now we have Addy here whos bridged the gap by playing minimal at 130 and up...

The speed makes it pound and therefor he's the only DJ I can listen to minimal with...

This 126 bullshit is like elevator music...or good to drive to...keeps me from speeding...


God remember Carl Cox up till last year...man he would kill me...

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Leif
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Montreal, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Techo Head
I have heard from many many people that this DJ is not really uplifting it's kinda boring.


I would say the same... if I was 6 and still listening to the Mortal Kombat soundtrack

This calls for a Venn diagram:

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