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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Are we to assume that all Senators were born Senators?

no. we're to assume that barack Obama is as "uniquely unqualified" as any other 2 1/2 year Senator that hasn't willfully stood his ground on anything, claims to heal people with the power of bi-partisanedship but has done nothing to support said claim and bases his/her entire political philosophy on soaring intangibles. right?

i mean forget the fact that he's never managed anything other than maybe his front office.

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Originally posted by Q5echo "uniquely unqualified"

Well, after 8 years and near-infinite examples, I would say the current POTUS is wholly unqualified for the role.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Well, after 8 years and near-infinite examples, I would say the current POTUS is wholly unqualified for the role.

right, we've all been fed "the sky is falling", but we're looking to the next 4.

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Originally posted by Q5echo no. we're to assume that barack Obama is as "uniquely unqualified" as any other 2 1/2 year Senator that hasn't willfully stood his ground on anything, claims to heal people with the power of bi-partisanedship but has done nothing to support said claim and bases his/her entire political philosophy on soaring intangibles. right? i mean forget the fact that he's never managed anything other than maybe his front office.

Why are we talking about Barack Obama? You said all Senators.

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Originally posted by Q5echo right, we've all been fed "the sky is falling",

I never said the sky was falling. All I was saying is that george bush made me feel proud of john howard (a politician whom I despise) in how he conducted himself in front of the cameras.

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Originally posted by Q5echo but we're looking to the next 4.

yeah, you and the rest of the globe

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Why are we talking about Barack Obama? You said all Senators.

i think Senators make lousy choices, yes. thats not to say a Senator couldn't ever be an effective POTUS but among these three?

i guess of the three choices we have, based on what we've already discussed, i think you'd have to agree that Obama is comparitively lacking...unless your a die-hard supporter of the intangible

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Originally posted by Q5echo i think Senators make lousy choices, yes. thats not to say a Senator couldn't ever be an effective POTUS but among these three? i guess of the three choices we have, based on what we've already discussed, i think you'd have to agree that Obama is comparitively lacking.

That depends entirely on what your notion of relevant experience is. As I've said before, there's never existed a single person who is truly qualified to be President of the United States. To paraphrase Susan Rice, no one person can ever be prepared to deal with the wide array of challenges and issues a President faces on a daily basis. So we look for specific qualifications, which vary widely based on personal preference.

If military experience is a qualification, John McCain surely must be close to an ideal candidate. If a history of political activism is important, Hillary Clinton isn't too shabby. And if you want commitment to a community, I'd argue you can't do too badly by Barack Obama.

You talk about his professional experiences being hollow, but to me it is one of his greatest assets. He has shown a commitment to improving the lives of the people from the beginning of his career, something I think that is lost upon John McCain and Hillary. I think if you asked them why they ran for office for the first time, you would get very different answers. Clinton and McCain would likely say something about serving God and country. Barack Obama would say to improve the lives of the people. Does that make him unpatriotic to imply that American lives need improving? No, I think that makes him qualified to be President.

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i suppose we'll find out soon enough

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov That depends entirely on what your notion of relevant experience is. As I've said before, there's never existed a single person who is truly qualified to be President of the United States. To paraphrase Susan Rice, no one person can ever be prepared to deal with the wide array of challenges and issues a President faces on a daily basis. So we look for specific qualifications, which vary widely based on personal preference. If military experience is a qualification, John McCain surely must be close to an ideal candidate. If a history of political activism is important, Hillary Clinton isn't too shabby. And if you want commitment to a community, I'd argue you can't do too badly by Barack Obama. You talk about his professional experiences being hollow, but to me it is one of his greatest assets. He has shown a commitment to improving the lives of the people from the beginning of his career, something I think that is lost upon John McCain and Hillary. I think if you asked them why they ran for office for the first time, you would get very different answers. Clinton and McCain would likely say something about serving God and country. Barack Obama would say to improve the lives of the people. Does that make him unpatriotic to imply that American lives need improving? No, I think that makes him qualified to be President.

mike bloomberg for president!!!

Summary:

Vote for McCain if you think Bush & Co did a great job

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

McCain fucking rules!

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