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Skipper
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Originally posted by Orko
Skipper how do always managed to get sucked in? You are smarter than that.


Sucked in to what? Jay's diatribes about the nanny state? I'm really not too sure to be honest

Old Post Apr-10-2008 21:24  Canada
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Gen3r4l1ty
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All of this is moot. So they ban McDonalds from advertising...
and kids are still fatasses because their activity/eating habits have not changed.

Then they go a step further and ban fastfood outright.
Again... kids are still fatasses since the parenting has not changed and the kids are no more active then they were.

So lets ban ALL unhealthy food... so the only choice the feeble-minded populace has is water, broccoli, and f*cking wheat bread.

Better yet... lets just let the government schedule our days! Tell us when to eat... how much... when to exercise... how long... when to sleep... That way we can all be identical, healthy, thin, perfectly programmed little governmental robots.


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/overdue, Scott


i'm sorry but that never gets old to me.


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there shouldn't be an all-out ban...but there shouldn't be unfettered access to highly impressionably young children by unscrupulous corporations.

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Kamka
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LoL, it's fun that I knew who made this thread as soon as I read the title, before I even had a chance to glance at the poster's name... Jayx1 your style is unmistakeable


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To be honest, I dont mind the big guy up there, I just hate all his fanclubs.
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Kamka
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Originally posted by Skipper
I personally see this as more of a public health concern than a human rights concern.


+ 1


I think what Jayx1 (and others) has forgot is that not all the children have parents who care for the best for them... what if the parents are ignorant and uncaring about their children's welfare? About their children's psychological and physical health? And they don't have to be outright abusive so no CAS will come knocking on their door... Just today, my mom suddenly told me a story about a little girl she knew, who was around eight - nine years old when I was still a small baby... she was a good child but her parents did not really care for her, they neglected her. She went to school and had all bad marks in math, she always got D's and D's. My mom told me that once, on an occasion, she was visiting that little girl's home and tutored her in math, and then, some time later, her friend who knew this girl's parents asked my mom "what have you done? Andrea got an A in her math test". This was after my mom tutored her that one time. When she was telling this story today, my mom said that this little girl was a good child, she did not need to be told things twice; when she was tutored that one time she was very receptive and understanding. And she just needed to be properly taken care of, but her parents did not really care. And they neglected her so much that she had one of her fingers cut off in some accident. Do you not think Jayx1 that there are other children who are being neglected likewise by their parents? Do you not think that these kids should have at least the protection of some government regulation, if their parents are oblivous to their well-being? Or are these kids just to suffer the unfortunate consequences of having parents that do not care???


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quote:
Originally posted by Rodrico
To be honest, I dont mind the big guy up there, I just hate all his fanclubs.
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Kamka
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Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty
All of this is moot. So they ban McDonalds from advertising...
and kids are still fatasses because their activity/eating habits have not changed.

Then they go a step further and ban fastfood outright.
Again... kids are still fatasses since the parenting has not changed and the kids are no more active then they were.

So lets ban ALL unhealthy food... so the only choice the feeble-minded populace has is water, broccoli, and f*cking wheat bread.

Better yet... lets just let the government schedule our days! Tell us when to eat... how much... when to exercise... how long... when to sleep... That way we can all be identical, healthy, thin, perfectly programmed little governmental robots.


That's slippery slope arguing...


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quote:
Originally posted by Rodrico
To be honest, I dont mind the big guy up there, I just hate all his fanclubs.
***I've got hairgel in my bathroom and Tylenol near my bed***

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quote:
Originally posted by Kamka
LoL, it's fun that I knew who made this thread as soon as I read the title, before I even had a chance to glance at the poster's name... Jayx1 your style is unmistakeable


the style is utterly obvious.

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Honestly.. what's so bad about mcdonalds.

If you watch your calories and don't have like 2 double quarter pounders it shouldnt be that bad. Its pretty greasy thats true and can probably lead to some higher levels of ldl cholesterol but i think its mainly the pop thats the problem.. All that sugar in there.


Diet + excercise is the best thing for anyone. Don't be so quick to blame the fast food companies.

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quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
lol. I stopped reading right there.
The reality is NO parent has 100% control of their child. If you think you do, keep kidding yourself.


Really? So you are telling me that parents dont have 100% control over what their kids eat? Wow. You know what? When i was a kid i ate what my mother cooked and if i didnt like it i got NOTHING. No matter how much noise i made, the end result was the same. If we went to mcdonalds or somewhere it was a treat and 100% their decision. I used to try and get the sugary cereals too and my mom would always kibosh that idea. They had 100% control over my eating as good parents would. Now once i went to high school they didnt but by then if you dont know any better thats your own damned problem!

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Jayx1
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Where do i start with this one?

quote:
Originally posted by Kamka
+ 1


I think what Jayx1 (and others) has forgot is that not all the children have parents who care for the best for them...


I agree and sadly that is life in a world of varying personalities. Humans by nature are victims of circumstance. But banning cartoon sponsorships isnt going to fix that and the government is not the fix all of everything that ales us.

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what if the parents are ignorant and uncaring about their children's welfare?
then they shouldnt be parents.
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About their children's psychological and physical health?
thats called neglect and is criminal.

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And they don't have to be outright abusive so no CAS will come knocking on their door...


Then what you are saying is that you dont agree with their style of parenting. So it should be the states way or the highway? I dont think so.

quote:
Just today, my mom suddenly told me a story about a little girl she knew, who was around eight - nine years old when I was still a small baby... she was a good child but her parents did not really care for her, they neglected her. She went to school and had all bad marks in math, she always got D's and D's. My mom told me that once, on an occasion, she was visiting that little girl's home and tutored her in math, and then, some time later, her friend who knew this girl's parents asked my mom "what have you done? Andrea got an A in her math test". This was after my mom tutored her that one time. When she was telling this story today, my mom said that this little girl was a good child, she did not need to be told things twice; when she was tutored that one time she was very receptive and understanding. And she just needed to be properly taken care of, but her parents did not really care. And they neglected her so much that she had one of her fingers cut off in some accident.
so perhaps the government should ban knives in homes with children? That way there wont be any finger cutting. Dont worry though, the government has just banned homework for kids in school so this wont be a problem anymore anyways. The truth here is that this is why it's a lot better for communities to act like communities. The answer here isnt banning tv commercials. Its for society to start acting more like your mom did and to start taking care of each other. And by society i dont mean the government. I mean family, extended family, neighbours and friends. The governments jon is to pave roads, fund schools and ban the lords prayer (har har), not socially engineer according to some bureaucrat's version of what's right and wrong.

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Do you not think Jayx1 that there are other children who are being neglected likewise by their parents?


There sure are!

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Do you not think that these kids should have at least the protection of some government regulation, if their parents are oblivous to their well-being? Or are these kids just to suffer the unfortunate consequences of having parents that do not care???


They do. Its called CAS. What they need is protection from abuse. What this issue is about is style of parenting. Those are two very distinct concepts. By taking away a parent's right to be a parent and coddling society, all we are doing is making people even MORE dependent on the government to make decisions for them. So by "protecting" people from themselves we actually create more harm toward them.

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RandomGirl
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Originally posted by DigiNut
[FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#99CCEE]Um, yes? If you don't mind, please explain to us again where it's specified that advertising is not subject to section 2, subsections (b), (c) and (d) of the CCRF? Or is it "corporations" that are excepted?

Last time I checked, advertising is in fact a personal freedom, and corporations are entitled to the same freedoms as individuals.



Correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty damn sure that corporations do not have a "right" to mass broadcast their shit to the public via television.

Now perhaps you could say that the broadcasting station itself should have a right to broadcast what it wants. That is a whole different story.

However, something needs to govern what is being publicly distributed... because asking the station to decide to take or not take the 4 million dollars in revenue from McDonalds, and making that decision based on morals or what is right/wrong or best for the people, is a laughable concept.

Not to mention, it would cause the corp. to go against its own duty to "benefit the shareholders" blah blah blah.

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