Go find a picture of what you want to look like and post it here. Then i'll tell you how to look like that.

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Originally posted by echosystm what other kind of weight would i be talking about? water weight? when you are cutting, you want to preserve as much muscle as you can, or you will not look fit and anabolic. your advice on this is terrible. it is good that you are trying to help, and your diet advice was sound. but, don't waste other people's time if you don't know what you're talking about plz.

Lol, personal trainers and their know it all egos. My advice worked very well for me, and no way in hell doing 2 sessions a week of cardio for only 15 minutes is gonna have your abs showing (except for HIIT). Train your abs all u want, but w/o lots of cardio to get that low bf, u won't see the 6 pack. I've been on BB for long time, and have my workout and diet plans off their. If your bloated, its cause your diet is shit. BTW, most people on BB give advice for getting big and beefy, which is not what were after here.

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY Lol, personal trainers and their know it all egos. My advice worked very well for me, and no way in hell doing 2 sessions a week of cardio for only 15 minutes is gonna have your abs showing (except for HIIT). Train your abs all u want, but w/o lots of cardio to get that low bf, u won't see the 6 pack. I've been on BB for long time, and have my workout and diet plans off their. If your bloated, its cause your diet is shit. BTW, most people on BB give advice for getting big and beefy, which is not what were after here.

Lol, you're fucking wrong, dude.

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Originally posted by tubularbills pushups and situps. /thread

What a fucking idiot you are.

You people dont know shit about working out. Stop giving out false information that you dont do yourself or hasnt ever been proven.

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY Train your abs all u want, but w/o lots of cardio to get that low bf, u won't see the 6 pack.

that's me about 2 years ago. 3 days a week weights, 2 days a week cardio. like i said, my family has thyroid problems and i have a very slow metabolism. if i can do it, then it would be even easier for someone with a normal metabolism. i guess that pretty much proves you wrong hey?



just shutup.
i was going to be nice, but you're clearly a fucking retard. i should have seen it comming though, usually i expect this kind of stupidity from people who type things in alternating caps...

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Originally posted by floyd741 i think echosystm is a pretty cool guy. eh pwns robby rox and doesn't afraid of anything.

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No need to hide your identity mate. We all know you're a mexican wrestler in reality.

Yes please more (hot) men post pics of themselves showing their muscles (so I can fap).

I thought toning involved doing regular cardio, no?

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Let me put it this way mayne. When I started working out I was about a buck fiddy. Now i'm hovering at around 194 lbs (not more than 15 percent bodyfat i'm sure). By the time I get to 200 i'll have gained at least 40 lbs of lean muscle mass. I can lose about 20 lbs of muscle if I stop working out, and gain that back in less than a year.

I've been going to my gym for over a year and i've seen a lot of people since day one who look exactly the same now. In fact, I don't know anyone there who looks like they've made a significant change in the way they look...and they all look either like they don't work out at all, or they are big and strong but way too fat. Or they're somewhat advanced and making gains at a crawl at this point.

The point is, it's not in the odds that you will have 'what it takes' to look the way you want to look. Or even change your body much at all. It's not easy. In fact it's pretty god damned difficult, painful, and time consuming. That's why most people don't even try to exercise.

So go for it mayne, and talk to me when you want to learn what exercises to do for your legs.

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Originally posted by ToxicGreenWaste No need to hide your identity mate. We all know you're a mexican wrestler in reality.

shit man good job your ripped now

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Originally posted by ToxicGreenWaste I've been going to my gym for over a year and i've seen a lot of people since day one who look exactly the same now.

my point exactly. people dont understand that in order to make ANY change at all you gotta work like a bodybuilder. even then it's going to be slow as.

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Originally posted by floyd741 i think echosystm is a pretty cool guy. eh pwns robby rox and doesn't afraid of anything.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson Yes please more (hot) men post pics of themselves showing their muscles (so I can fap). I thought toning involved doing regular cardio, no?

i barley do any cardio (well summers i usually bike everywhere) but i have a low calorie diet (because i usually never meet my surplus required per day) and i weight train regularly. as a result i have a bit of muscle tone. Sadly my metabolism is way up there and i need to be on a strict routine to put on mass. This was oct 2007.. im sure im 138 or 137 here..