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Originally posted by AustralianGQ trance is changing again. we are seeing less commercial, house, electro stuff and more baleric, uplifting, epic trance. more influence from the late 90's and early 2000, which is a good thing for alot of ppl here.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo Vibrasphere Asura and that's about the extent of my knowledge regarding new and "innovative" trance artists.

ugh....vibrasphere is good....but it never has liek a climax or anything in the songs....or at least from what i have listened to....it sounds amazing, but ust never finishes off. It would be like having the best sex of your life, but right as your about to finsih she just stosp and runs away.

I don't know why everyone claims that trance is still copying 1999. If it were, I could still listen to it. Instead, the genre has become a sort of grotesque, degenerate caricature of that style. Trance today is a wall of sound with moments of uninspired twinkles. It's far worse than copied. It's awful.

i heard this song that has a chorus that says "this is an anthem for..." when the hell did trance ever need to be an anthem for anything. save that for the emo crybabies.

are there any smaller trance forums where the majority of people are listening to stuff like vibrasphere and solar fields? i feel like the very stuff we are ragging on for sucking permeates the music discussion and production forums.

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i heard this song that has a chorus that says "this is an anthem for..." when the hell did trance ever need to be an anthem for anything. save that for the emo crybabies. [/QUOTElol

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Originally posted by piku303 are there any smaller trance forums where the majority of people are listening to stuff like vibrasphere and solar fields? i feel like the very stuff we are ragging on for sucking permeates the music discussion and production forums.

Mostly psy trance forums.

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Clearly the only way to innovate trance is to drag more hip hop and r'n'b influences in. They are popular for a reason so its obvious what the way forward is.

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Originally posted by Unable No room for Supernaturalistic?

ya, straight up, svd's supernaturalistic pushed trance to a new level, still somewhat "anthemy" it definently is in its own class.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Really, it would be so fucking easy to make innovative trance. If I had any compositional or production talent I'd be doing it right now, because I can see so many ways of doing it. I can think of tracks from the mid-90s that did things that were never picked up on. Tracks composed in completely different parts that developed into the next one, never re-using hooks or melodic themes from earlier sections. Tracks that kept the melody completely seperate from the beat. Tracks that had nothing to do with leading melodies supported by harmonies. I mean, if trance actually started using polyphony and layered counter-point more it'd sound completely different. Take away the breakdown, take away the peak, hell- take away the percussive intro/outro. Introduce your melodies straight away, or don't introduce them until the end. Drop them in. Oh, and for the love of God, find a musical way of evoking a build or rise in tension that isn't a fucking snare roll.

well i agree with you on the lack of innovation and originality, but the sort of innovation ur looking for is really no that innovant... all the stuff u mentioned have been done...

and if it was soooooo easy to compose and create melodies and rhythms and such then we would all be mozarts... i also think innovation should come, but it is coming... tunes that are made today will be played in minimum two months...

think about it, i signed a track that i made in 2004!! and it will be released in a few months...and folks, there is no escaping, you will always have to navigate thru shitloads of music to get something really good...

and thats not the fault of producers, its of the labels, nowdays alot of shit get signed just cos it "sounds like" something else, the labels wont risk their rep and money for something new, and the producers know the labels search something like that, so they make it... its very easy to do that, i replicated "lasgo - alone" five years ago in just two days to prove a point...

things have always been like that, thats what happens when a guy making music beetwin work days become the same guy running a studio buisness and need to keep the cash flow...

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Originally posted by piku303 are there any smaller trance forums where the majority of people are listening to stuff like vibrasphere and solar fields? i feel like the very stuff we are ragging on for sucking permeates the music discussion and production forums.

head straight to this forum and register:
http://www.john00fleming.dj/forum

everyone in there enjoys that kind of trance.

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