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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN well, to be fair that's not what renegade asked he asked if you believe the hypothesis, which is no different to asking someone if they believe in god (a question you have answered on multiple occasions). you can't bring the topic up and then skate around it, do you believe in these ideas you are raising or not?

How can I believe in a hypothesis I don't know for a fact is true. It's just something I think about. In Western theology, there is this notion that God and his "kingdom" are purely spiritual. What I am hypothesizing is, could God's kingdom be physical? Could aliens and angels be one in the same?

There is another theory, in which UFOs are a manifestation of Satan's kingdom...

Ephesians 6:12

12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

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Originally posted by LazFX Gilgamesh would like to have a word with you...

More people should know about this?

If Noah was a lie, what else could be? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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Originally posted by Krypton How can I believe in a hypothesis I don't know for a fact is true. It's just something I think about. In Western theology, there is this notion that God and his "kingdom" are purely spiritual. What I am hypothesizing is, could God's kingdom be physical? Could aliens and angels be one in the same? There is another theory, in which UFOs are a manifestation of Satan's kingdom... Ephesians 6:12 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

I bet I could find a passage in the bible that I could argue meant just about anything. I find the notion of searching for "alien" passages to be pretty stupid though.

Don't you think there's enough fantasy in the bible as it is? Its much more likely that some of the more creative entries are related to the magic mushroom rather than visitors from another planet. You can keep quoting nonsense as much as you like, it just makes you look foolish imo.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I bet I could find a passage in the bible that I could argue meant just about anything. I find the notion of searching for "alien" passages to be pretty stupid though. Don't you think there's enough fantasy in the bible as it is? Its much more likely that some of the more creative entries are related to the magic mushroom rather than visitors from another planet. You can keep quoting nonsense as much as you like, it just makes you look foolish imo.

Of course it's stupid to you...You're always looking at it thru' the prism of atheism, so anything even remotely related to "God" is stupid to you...I think it's interesting though. Could some of the writers have been trippin on the best shrooms in the ancient world. Maybe...Could extraterrestrials have visited them? Maybe...See we don't know, because no one was alive to witness events as they happened thousands of years ago, so we can only speculate on what the ancient texts describe. As I've stated before, I'm speculating out of interest to the idea...

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Here is a site where these guys think there was an angelic civilization on Mars!!!

http://www.mt.net/~watcher/ufos.html

UFO's and the Bible...

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Can God vote?

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Originally posted by Krypton Of course it's stupid to you...You're always looking at it thru' the prism of atheism, so anything even remotely related to "God" is stupid to you...I think it's interesting though. Could some of the writers have been trippin on the best shrooms in the ancient world. Maybe...Could extraterrestrials have visited them? Maybe...See we don't know, because no one was alive to witness events as they happened thousands of years ago, so we can only speculate on what the ancient texts describe. As I've stated before, I'm speculating out of interest to the idea...

Well, to be honest I find it far more likely that the bible is the (loosely-written) word of god than I do a diary of UFO visits.

Speculating is fine, but I'm gonna need more than ambiguous quotes from a document that has been re-written more times than we'll ever know. If all we have to speculate about is such passages, then I think we're a little light on evidence, wouldn't you agree?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Well, to be honest I find it far more likely that the bible is the (loosely-written) word of god than I do a diary of UFO visits. Speculating is fine, but I'm gonna need more than ambiguous quotes from a document that has been re-written more times than we'll ever know. If all we have to speculate about is such passages, then I think we're a little light on evidence, wouldn't you agree?

We're not in the rhelm of empiricism man...

Speculation needs little evidence...

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I bet I could find a passage in the bible that I could argue meant just about anything. I find the notion of searching for "alien" passages to be pretty stupid though. Don't you think there's enough fantasy in the bible as it is? Its much more likely that some of the more creative entries are related to the magic mushroom rather than visitors from another planet. You can keep quoting nonsense as much as you like, it just makes you look foolish imo.

Well, a lot of the Bible is plagerism. I would bet, though, that if there was a Moses, that he ate quite a few mushrooms before talking to that bush..

The Sumerians were the first advanced culture known to man, 5000 years ago. They had explicit astrological knowledge, they designed the Zodiac, they knew advanced math, infrastructure, education... and they attribute all of that knowledge to aliens.

really, the universe is way too big too attribute to one masterful patriarch. can you imagine how pathetically egotistical such a god would be? A space billions and billions of lightyears wide in every direction, dimensions far beyond our human comprehension; and this entity with nothing better to do, this fascist bastard is watching your every move, waiting to judge you on the day you (accidentally?) die? it's so archaic and boring.. effectively the dumbest lie you could believe in modern life.

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Originally posted by ******** If there is no god then who wrote all the books, Satan?

Joseph Smith

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Originally posted by ******** If there is no god then who wrote all the books, Satan?

hahahaha

was that a joke?

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You confuse people when you ask them who were the people who built the nuclear bombs. Even I don’t know who’s not doing it now with their thoughtless actions, and in their spirits.

Dont just do something, sit there.

Lucifer is the light bringer...

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Lucifer is the light bringer...

Isaiah 14

The Fall of Lucifer
12 “ How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer,[b] son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
13 For you have said in your heart:

‘ I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol,
To the lowest depths of the Pit.
16 “ Those who see you will gaze at you,
And consider you, saying:

‘ Is this the man who made the earth tremble,
Who shook kingdoms,
17 Who made the world as a wilderness
And destroyed its cities,
Who did not open the house of his prisoners?’
18 “ All the kings of the nations,
All of them, sleep in glory,
Everyone in his own house;
19 But you are cast out of your grave
Like an abominable branch,
Like the garment of those who are slain,
Thrust through with a sword,
Who go down to the stones of the pit,
Like a corpse trodden underfoot.
20 You will not be joined with them in burial,
Because you have destroyed your land
And slain your people.
The brood of evildoers shall never be named.
21 Prepare slaughter for his children
Because of the iniquity of their fathers,
Lest they rise up and possess the land,
And fill the face of the world with cities.”

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