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Originally posted by PETRAN "Progressive" the new "Trance"? Yeah thats what they were saying in 2001, 7 years ago!

+1. Done and over with, sadly.

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Originally posted by siastyle Okay iv hurd the Album and lemmi tell you guyz.... Tiesto is gono make it back to the top again with these hits. The thing about it is that hes trying 2 bring a new style tho just like he did with Just be and it worked. they songs areunt TOO HIGHT up. but the vocals acaully are the best thing in 2007. The Track Carpe Noctum is like traffic but it hink he could of prefected the shit ouf it. but generalllyy its an amazing album...oh and Ten Seconds Before Sunrise is like Forever today TIMES 12

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Originally posted by Clovis Well then hook me up with some examples. Most of what people on here seem to think is a shift in a producer's style seems more to me like them just adding a few in vogue sounds to their usual fare. I aint fooled.

Ok- Shiloh?

I haven't been paying terribly close attention to their discography as of late, but I recall a more than subtle involvement with Electro House compared to the style of their output before around 2006 or so.

...plus, I remember someone on these forums making some remarks concerning how the TA forums played a large role in circulating their material well before they took up 'Electro garbage' (or something to that effct)...was that you?

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Originally posted by PETRAN I don't understand this "prog" is the "new trance", "techno" is the new "prog" thing, what do we mean by that, that prog sounds like (older i guess?) trance and techno sounds like (older i guess?) prog? these new "pseudo-evolutions" are in peoples minds seriously. its just that people discover a Detroit-Techno producer such as Joris Voorn and probably say "wow, this is like the older proggy stuff i used t listen, OMG techno is so incredible right-now it must be the new progressive!" whereas the truth is that Joris Voorn plays the traditional early-90s Detroit sound albeit with modern production and has nothing to do with Sasha or Holden. People get bored, discover something that they like in a new genre (and this new genre may share some characteristics that they used to like in their older prefered genre, e.g. similar tempo or synth-lines)an baptize it as the "new something", incapable of understanding that it is their minds and not the music (genre) that perceives the "new" something. Techno is always techno, Trance is always trance, and prog is...well...always prog, although "progressive" is over-used these says, and depending on the time period, this genre could actually refer to a lot of different things. Its just that when something in EDM becomes a "fashion", such as retro-electronic sounds, metallic glitches, farty basslines and whatever, then many producers-be it progressive, techno, house or even trance,are trying to integrate these "trendy" sounds to their own, more traditional sound.

Well said.

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Originally posted by Clovis Well then hook me up with some examples. Most of what people on here seem to think is a shift in a producer's style seems more to me like them just adding a few in vogue sounds to their usual fare. I aint fooled.

Someone mentioned Luke Chable? Phil K? Vance Musgrove? Pretty much the entire Aussie prog crew really...

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Originally posted by PETRAN I don't understand this "prog" is the "new trance", "techno" is the new "prog" thing, what do we mean by that, that prog sounds like (older i guess?) trance and techno sounds like (older i guess?) prog? these new "pseudo-evolutions" are in peoples minds seriously. its just that people discover a Detroit-Techno producer such as Joris Voorn and probably say "wow, this is like the older proggy stuff i used t listen, OMG techno is so incredible right-now it must be the new progressive!" whereas the truth is that Joris Voorn plays the traditional early-90s Detroit sound albeit with modern production and has nothing to do with Sasha or Holden. People get bored, discover something that they like in a new genre (and this new genre may share some characteristics that they used to like in their older prefered genre, e.g. similar tempo or synth-lines)an baptize it as the "new something", incapable of understanding that it is their minds and not the music (genre) that perceives the "new" something. Techno is always techno, Trance is always trance, and prog is...well...always prog, although "progressive" is over-used these says, and depending on the time period, this genre could actually refer to a lot of different things. Its just that when something in EDM becomes a "fashion", such as retro-electronic sounds, metallic glitches, farty basslines and whatever, then many producers-be it progressive, techno, house or even trance,are trying to integrate these "trendy" sounds to their own, more traditional sound.

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Originally posted by PETRAN I don't understand this "prog" is the "new trance", "techno" is the new "prog" thing, what do we mean by that, that prog sounds like (older i guess?) trance and techno sounds like (older i guess?) prog? these new "pseudo-evolutions" are in peoples minds seriously. its just that people discover a Detroit-Techno producer such as Joris Voorn and probably say "wow, this is like the older proggy stuff i used t listen, OMG techno is so incredible right-now it must be the new progressive!" whereas the truth is that Joris Voorn plays the traditional early-90s Detroit sound albeit with modern production and has nothing to do with Sasha or Holden. People get bored, discover something that they like in a new genre (and this new genre may share some characteristics that they used to like in their older prefered genre, e.g. similar tempo or synth-lines)an baptize it as the "new something", incapable of understanding that it is their minds and not the music (genre) that perceives the "new" something. Techno is always techno, Trance is always trance, and prog is...well...always prog, although "progressive" is over-used these says, and depending on the time period, this genre could actually refer to a lot of different things. Its just that when something in EDM becomes a "fashion", such as retro-electronic sounds, metallic glitches, farty basslines and whatever, then many producers-be it progressive, techno, house or even trance,are trying to integrate these "trendy" sounds to their own, more traditional sound.

u win thraed

i disagree with petran on this.

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Originally posted by PETRAN Techno is always techno, Trance is always trance, and prog is...well...always prog, although "progressive" is over-used these says, and depending on the time period, this genre could actually refer to a lot of different things.

That's because progressive house has actually progressed throughout its life-span. Depending on what year it was made, "progressive house" can sound very different.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J That's because progressive house has actually progressed throughout its life-span. Depending on what year it was made, "progressive house" can sound very different.

If it doesnt sound different its not progressive.

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Originally posted by Subtle If it doesnt sound different its not progressive.

Pretty much.

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> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

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Originally posted by david.michael u win thraed

+1

I think PETRAN should join trancecritics.com crew.. I always like his recommendations and posts.. he is humble too and not a fake elitist prick like most of users in here.

Last edited by Kinezi on Jun-12-2008 at 19:40