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Originally posted by johnson258 ok so since people are posting noob questions im gonna ask mine . when i turn the gain to 0 on my mixer i can still hear the track pretty loud on my headphones...is this supposed to happen? or is it just my crap mixer?

If i understand you correctly.

The gain on your mixer will determine the volume going out to your speakers.

Your headphones are controlled by a separate gain. So in other words your headphones have their own volume control

Is that what you're asking?

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Originally posted by Zild What kind of mixer do you have?

stanton rm-3s.

@ nelly: when i turn down the gain to 0, i can still hear track blasting from the speakers. what im asking is if turning the gain to 0 is supposed to kill the sound of a track completely. cause my mixer doesnt do that.

thnx

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Originally posted by Zild Skip. I'll try to find that tracklist hopefully I wrote it out and saved it. Here it is. Zidan Style, Chaim & K300 - Bedolff Chaim - Besides Chaim - Alvarado Chaim - Popsky Guy Gerber & Chaim - Beaches Guy J - Self Love Namito & Eyerer - Quipa Chaim - Under My Skin Minilogue - Inca Stephan Bodzin - Treibsand Marc Romboy & Stephan Bodzin - Callisto I was just getting started unfortunately CDs don't hold enough space, so I had to make it short.

thanks. gonna grab a few of those for sure. also gonna grab your other mixes.

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If you turn the gain on a channel down there should be no signal. On every mixer I've used if you turn the gain on a channel all the way down you shouldn't hear the song in the headphones even if you have the headphone volume turned all the way up.

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Originally posted by Zild If you turn the gain on a channel down there should be no signal. On every mixer I've used if you turn the gain on a channel all the way down you shouldn't hear the song in the headphones even if you have the headphone volume turned all the way up.

I was thinking faders... woops

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Originally posted by Zild It helps if you have a Master VU you can look at other than that you have to use your ears. Really what you're trying to accomplish is turning up the song that you are bringing in a little bit while you turn down the song you're taking out a little bit. I usually use the gains for this as I prefer knobs to faders but as you can imagine I sit there for a few minutes gradually turning one up in minute amounts while I turn the other one down at the same time. Skip. I'll try to find that tracklist hopefully I wrote it out and saved it. Here it is. Zidan Style, Chaim & K300 - Bedolff Chaim - Besides Chaim - Alvarado Chaim - Popsky Guy Gerber & Chaim - Beaches Guy J - Self Love Namito & Eyerer - Quipa Chaim - Under My Skin Minilogue - Inca Stephan Bodzin - Treibsand Marc Romboy & Stephan Bodzin - Callisto I was just getting started unfortunately CDs don't hold enough space, so I had to make it short.

Yeah, I've noticed that with my mixer I have to bring the levels on the oncoming song pretty high because it seems when I start to drop the levels on the current track, it sounds like the levels drop off way too much and it kills the mix. maybe my mixer sucks, it's the numark dxm06. But i mean should you never have both songs playing together at full levels?

I usually dont touch the gains and mostly use the faders, but I like knobs better too, I think start to use the gains more...

Yeah most mixers aren't linear. Most of their range is at the top of the fader. So you have to learn how to adjust in small amounts. If you have both songs playing together and they're both at full then that will be quite a bit louder than when you drop one out and have just one playing at full.

In a lot of beginner to intermediate DJ mixes you can always tell when a mix starts because you hear it get louder and you hear when it ends because it gets quieter.

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Originally posted by Zild Yeah most mixers aren't linear. Most of their range is at the top of the fader. So you have to learn how to adjust in small amounts. If you have both songs playing together and they're both at full then that will be quite a bit louder than when you drop one out and have just one playing at full. In a lot of beginner to intermediate DJ mixes you can always tell when a mix starts because you hear it get louder and you hear when it ends because it gets quieter.

Got it, thanks. I think I should work on structured volume mixes and relax with the eqs. I've been mixing like this: beatmatching, turn the levels down, bring the upfaders up, then bringing in the track by the eqs soley......I didn't know any better, I thought this was how the pros did it, but then when I recently started to record I realized tha tmost of the mixes sounded like crap

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Originally posted by ReclusNdangrmnt It's hit and miss. Luckily I try to record as much of my mixing as possible, so I think I've got a sample of this...I'll edit this post with a link. EDIT: Alright, here's a .wav(Didn't want compression to misconstrue us all )(Only 6-7MB) http://files.filefront.com/exwav/;1...;/fileinfo.html Kicks in around 30 seconds. Songs are Luminary-Amsterdamn(Smith and Pledger remix) and Free Radical-Surreal(En-Motion remix) Both songs used were in CD-quality format. My beatmatching has improved a lot since then...But this still haunts me occasionally, and I'm trying to finish a summer mix 'n such ...Hopefully it's some quick fix. Again, many thanks for the help.

This sounds shit because, 1. you've not managed to beatmatch them properly, and 2. these tracks are significantly out of key with each other. All the EQing in the world won't help if the 2 tracks are this incompatible.

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Originally posted by ReclusNdangrmnt It's hit and miss. Luckily I try to record as much of my mixing as possible, so I think I've got a sample of this...I'll edit this post with a link. EDIT: Alright, here's a .wav(Didn't want compression to misconstrue us all )(Only 6-7MB) http://files.filefront.com/exwav/;1...;/fileinfo.html Kicks in around 30 seconds. Songs are Luminary-Amsterdamn(Smith and Pledger remix) and Free Radical-Surreal(En-Motion remix) Both songs used were in CD-quality format. My beatmatching has improved a lot since then...But this still haunts me occasionally, and I'm trying to finish a summer mix 'n such ...Hopefully it's some quick fix. Again, many thanks for the help.

Definately need to sort the beatmatching, it drifts pretty badly here.
Also on the point of the key, yes it does clash quite badly. As Mikey Mike stated, there are too many elements in outgoing track that clash with the incoming bassline.

To make this kind of a mix you should take a look at keys, or if that's not for you then the placement of your mixes. Would actually like to hear more, just one mix is very difficult to get a full idea of what you are doing.

Send me a link in a PM if you prefer, I can give it a listen and give you my feedback.

Cheers
Nem

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Heh, this thread is still going?

Also, the mix from which I pulled that sample was me just screwing around and popping in random tracks, nothing too important.

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