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Clovis
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Originally posted by The17sss
haha... Love him or hate him, you gotta respect that he has become this successful with no help from anyone, and about 20 years of producers and station owners telling him he would never make it in radio and to find another career.



Thats akin to saying I should respect Hitler's rise to the top on Germany.


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The17sss
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Originally posted by Clovis
Thats akin to saying I should respect Hitler's rise to the top on Germany.


Dude you crack me up. We disagree on almost everything political but you say some pretty funny shit. props

*initiating fist bump*

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Lebezniatnikov
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Thats akin to saying I should respect Hitler's rise to the top on Germany.


Seriously. "Success" and respect don't come hand in hand. To whom much is given much is expected.


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Clovis
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Rush Limbaugh is just a terrible, terrible person. I think only Ann Coulter can out-do him.


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The17sss
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Rush Limbaugh is just a terrible, terrible person. I think only Ann Coulter can out-do him.


I love the guy... he stands up for what he believes in and loves his country. Are these the things a horrible person would do?

Limbaugh holds an annual fundraising telethon called the "EIB Cure-a-Thon" for the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society. In 2006 the EIB Cure-a-Thon conducted its 16th annual telethon, raising $1.7 million; totaling over $15 million since the first cure-a-thon. According to Leukemia and Lymphoma Society annual reports, Limbaugh personally contributed between $100,000 and $499,999 from 2000 - 2005 and 2007, and Limbaugh claims to have contributed around $250,000 in 2003, 2004 and 2005. NewsMax reported Limbaugh donated $250,000 in 2006, but the Society's 2006 annual report placed him in the $500,000 to $999,999 category. Limbaugh donated $320,000 during the 2007 Cure-a-Thon which the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society reported had raised $3.1 million. On his radio program April 18, 2008, Limbaugh claimed to pledge $400,000 to the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society after being challenged by two listeners to increase his initial pledge of $300,000.

Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation
Limbaugh conducts an annual drive to help the Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation collect contributions to provide scholarships for children of Marines and law enforcement officers/agents who have died in the line of duty. The foundation was the beneficiary of a record $2.1 million eBay auction in October 2007 after Limbaugh listed for sale a letter critical of him signed by 41 Democratic senators and pledged to match the selling price, which he did by donating $2.1 million of his own money.

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Rush Limbaugh is an authoritarian follower conservative. One who rarely questions authority, especially when he agrees with that authority. He is self-righteous, hypocritical, and supremely loyal to the Republican Party, not to principles. He plays partisan politics and cares nothing for objectivity or political comprimise. We can thank the likes of him for moving the Republican Party so far to the right, that is endangers the very fabric of our Republic.


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Originally posted by Krypton
Rush Limbaugh is an authoritarian follower conservative. One who rarely questions authority, especially when he agrees with that authority. He is self-righteous, hypocritical, and supremely loyal to the Republican Party, not to principles. He plays partisan politics and cares nothing for objectivity or political comprimise. We can thank the likes of him for moving the Republican Party so far to the right, that is endangers the very fabric of our Republic.


+1

Him and those like him, Ruined the GOP...

but I do listen to him from time to time just to gauge what the ignopop party is doing... and saying.....
taking cues from a pain killer addicted sex freak.....

only in America

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The17sss
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He is self-righteous, hypocritical, and supremely loyal to the Republican Party, not to principles. He plays partisan politics and cares nothing for objectivity or political comprimise.


You have that backwards. he is loyal to pure conservative principals, NOT the republican party. He has not, and will not endorse any republican in this race, especially McCain who he openly chastises on a daily basis for abandoning his own conservatism and trying so desperately to please the democrats.

And, who doesn't play partisan politics? The democrats? There is ZERO compromise for deomcrats so don't give me that B.S. At least McCain is willing to cross the aisle... Compromise for liberal democrats entails people from the right making concessions in their direction... you'll never see any liberal democrat compromise, cross the aisle, or drift to the right.

People who despise Rush so much have never actually spent any time listening to him. They make judgements based on what they hear from media outlets who hate him. I find that rather close minded for a group who claim to be so progressive.

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Clovis
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Originally posted by The17sss
People who despise Rush so much have never actually spent any time listening to him. They make judgements based on what they hear from media outlets who hate him. I find that rather close minded for a group who claim to be so progressive.



Not so, I've listened to him several times at my last job, and not for 10 minutes but for the duration of his show. It is very eye opening.

He preaches a diatribe of backwards ideas and plays to middle america's fears. My thoughts on him and his complete hipocrisy are best summed up by Hendrick Hertzberg:

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Rush in Rehab
by Hendrik Hertzberg October 27, 2003



"We do not need General Clark or any of the rest of you liberals. We don’t need to change the definition of patriotism in order to conform to the antiwar, hate-America-first radicalism of the Democrat leadership. And that’s what this is all about.”

In case you don’t happen to be a regular listener to “The Rush Limbaugh Show,” the above is a fair sample of the sort of thing the star of the show has been saying lately, or at any rate was saying until a week ago, when he checked in to a drug rehabilitation center. It’s not very different from what he’s been saying throughout the twenty years he’s been talking about politics on the radio. We know the sample is fair, because it was the featured quote last Thursday on the home page of Limbaugh’s own Web site, emblazoned in big blue letters right next to the smiling photograph of the patient himself. Limbaugh’s target this time was Wesley Clark, because Clark is a leading candidate for the Democratic Presidential nomination. As a four-star general, Clark led nato’s first and so far only major military action, which put a stop to ethnic cleansing in Kosovo; as a combat officer in Vietnam, he was severely wounded and awarded the silver star, the bronze star, and a purple heart. The person impugning his patriotism, Limbaugh, sat out the war in Vietnam—though not very comfortably, one must assume, since, as Joe Conason noted in Salon, the future scourge of cowards and slackers avoided the draft on account of “a persistent boil on his backside.”

Limbaugh is a prime example of what is known as a Chicken Hawk—a noisy, preening master of the martial art of talking who, back when it was a question of getting anywhere near harm’s way for the sake of his country, discovered that he had (as Vice-President Cheney once put it, explaining his own absence from the fray) “other priorities.” He has now joined another élite corps—the Vice Versa Virtuecrats, they might be called—whose members crusade against “moral relativism” and in favor of absolute standards of right and wrong backed up by draconian punishments while indulging themselves in devilment on the side. Like Newt Gingrich, who vowed to attack Bill Clinton in every speech for hiding his sad little dalliance with Monica Lewinsky while he himself was carrying on a years-long affair with a congressional staffer young enough to be his daughter, and William J. Bennett, who made millions promoting flinty self-discipline while gambling away comparable amounts in Las Vegas fleshpots, Limbaugh took a stern line on demon dope (“If people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up”) while himself possessing and consuming controlled substances in prodigious quantities. In Limbaugh’s case, the difficulty goes beyond an embarrassing inconsistency between professed beliefs and private behavior, because the “problem” he has acknowledged having—being “addicted to prescription pain medication”—correlates strongly with committing acts that the law defines as crimes.

Limbaugh’s colleagues in the right-wing jabber industry have come up with a consistent set of talking points in making the case that, in Ann Coulter’s words, “Rush’s behavior was not all that dissolute.” One point is that it was “highly courageous” of Limbaugh to admit his addiction, as Brent Bozell wrote. This would be more persuasive if Limbaugh’s admission had come before rather than after his addiction was described in detail in a National Enquirer story—a story whose essential outlines have since been confirmed by the non-supermarket press and whose particulars have been disputed by no one. (Limbaugh himself—presumably on the advice of his lawyer, Roy Black, whose other celebrity clients have included William Kennedy Smith and Marv Albert—has said only that the “stories you’ve heard contain inaccuracies and distortions.”) Another point is that Limbaugh’s ability to do his job while addicted is a testament to his greatness. “If this is what he’s like on painkillers, imagine when he’s off them!” Coulter exclaimed, adding, “Whoa! Set him loose once he’s gone through detox!”

A third talking point is that Limbaugh is not like other junkies—the bad kind, who use drugs like heroin and cocaine. Sean Hannity, the Fox TV host, discerned a “difference between somebody who, as part of a medical treatment, had these things prescribed and it got out of hand over time, and somebody who is using drugs recreationally.” Neal Boortz, an Atlanta-based radio shouter, said on MSNBC, “The addiction happened while he was under a legal regimen of these drugs. That is not at all the way people get addicted to heroin.” And G. Gordon Liddy, the Watergate burglar turned pundit, said, “I would distinguish Rush’s situation from someone who was a recreational drug user and was caught playing with fire and got addicted—moved up from marijuana to cocaine or something of that sort.”

Actually, under federal law there is no distinction between Oxycontin, Limbaugh’s reported pill of choice, and drugs like cocaine, methadone, and opiates. All are Schedule II drugs, which have medical uses but a high potential for abuse, and simple possession of any of them is punishable by up to a year’s imprisonment. Though Limbaugh may well have been introduced to painkillers via a doctor’s prescription, the suggestion that he became addicted to them under a doctor’s care is almost certainly false. So is the suggestion that he wasn’t taking them “recreationally”—i.e., to get high. The prescribed dose of Oxycontin, one tablet every twelve hours, is usually sufficient to relieve severe pain. The Enquirer has Limbaugh purchasing nearly twelve thousand during a four-month period in 2001—enough to soothe his back troubles for sixteen years.

Limbaugh deserves compassion no less (and no more) than any other drug addict. It would be a travesty of justice to lock him up for ingesting chemicals, an activity whose only victim, if any, has been himself. But the four hundred and fifty thousand Americans already in jail for breaking the drug laws also represent a failure of justice, and an even bigger failure of policy. (The United States imprisons more people for drug violations than the European Union imprisons for all causes combined, and the E.U.’s population exceeds the U.S.’s by a hundred million.) By the same token, it would be a travesty if Oxycontin—which has eased the sufferings of millions—were to be demonized as other psychoactive drugs have been demonized. Even if Limbaugh was using his drugs less to relieve pain than to procure pleasure, or if the pain he sought to relieve was less physical than existential, that may have been a problem, but it shouldn’t be a crime.

Limbaugh’s current sojourn in drug treatment is his third. If he fails again, he should have a fourth chance, and a fifth. Perhaps he will reflect upon the fact that if he weren’t quite so lucky—if he were poorer and darker of skin, and if he had been obliged from the start to seek his treatment under the tender auspices of the criminal-justice system—he would already have had his third strike. Such a change of heart seems unlikely; drug rehabilitation comes easier than the political kind. Limbaugh may be a Chicken Hawk in the war on drugs, but that doesn’t mean he deserves to be cannon fodder.


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The17sss
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Wesley Clark... a 4 star general who was essentially fired by the Sec. of Defense. He also said this onn May 11, 2001 (speaking to the Pulaski County GOP Lincoln Day Dinner in Little Rock, Arkansas):
"And I'm very glad we've got the great team in office, men like Colin Powell, Don Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice... people I know very well -- our president George W. Bush. We need them there." My brother also served in Kosovo under Clark and has plenty of first hand knowledge of his decisions to do things his own way for political expediency. He (Clark) even said if only Karl Rove would have returned his phone calls, he would have been on the Republican side while running for office. So, I don't hold him up as any bastion of integrity.

As for Rush, yeah.... he went to rehab 5 years ago and has been clean since. He makes no excuses for what he did and fully admits his mistakes and the experience actually saved him. Everyone thinks the Josh Hamilton story in baseball is so great... getting hooked on crack and falling into an abyss of failure and almost death, and then getting clean and rising to the top. If Rush went through that rehab ordeal, and used it as a successful learning experience, he shouldn't still be beaten up about it.

If you still have those strong opinions about Rush, and you listen to him regularly, then I can't refer to you personally; you're an exception.. but for the most part when people do attack him or say they hate him or that he's a fat fuck who knows nothing, when I ask them if they have ever listen to him they say no.

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Clovis
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As for Rush, yeah.... he went to rehab 5 years ago and has been clean since. He makes no excuses for what he did and fully admits his mistakes and the experience actually saved him. Everyone thinks the Josh Hamilton story in baseball is so great... getting hooked on crack and falling into an abyss of failure and almost death, and then getting clean and rising to the top. If Rush went through that rehab ordeal, and used it as a successful learning experience, he shouldn't still be beaten up about it.




So its ok for Rush, who dodged Vietnam because of a boil on his backside, to call in question Clark's patriotism, but when Wes Clark simply states that being shot down in a jet is not a qualification for war, it's in poor taste and turns into a big deal?

That irrelevant issue aside, apparently you missed the points raised by the article. The guy is a complete and utterly sad hypocrite, who has been preaching one hard line message after another while not once applying the same black & white moral judgement to himself.


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The thing with Clark is another issue. But I've heard Rush speak many times (post rehab) about the hypocracy of his life at the time he was going through the addiction. He admits about himself exactly what you are saying about that time in his life... and with sincerity. He never claims to have the moral high ground, and I think as long as he continues to demonstrate he has changed for the better with his personal choices that made him a hypocrite at the time, he can't be labled as one now.

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