Isnt buying second hand used CDs from Ebay, Amazon or Discogs pirating? The money never gets to Artist/Label, it just changes hands from one owner to another..
Last edited by Darkarbiter on Jul-26-2008 at 12:14
Jul-26-2008 10:30
Ian
Not dead yet.
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: UK
quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Not the point. He is right. If you define pirating as stealer selling stuff second hand is too.
Especially since if I buy a rare second hand cd then that pushes up the price meaning someone else might not be able to have it.
They both decrease sales for the original artist.
a lot of the time people buy second hand because they can't get hold of it brand new though, for someone in that position, is it wrong?
Jul-26-2008 10:36
Darkarbiter
Psysnob
Registered: Mar 2007
Location: Melbourne
I never said it was wrong and no especially if they can't get it from the new. The main reason I think its good is because it encourages artists to not release crappy releases and in general protects the consumer. Anyway... I don't think buying stuff second hand or pirating is stealing.
The only thing that's worrying me about this is the conflict of interest that is occuring because these ISPs are essentially now monitoring what you do with your account. That has negative implications for freedom in my opinion. But pretty soon the torrent programs will just integrate encryption anyway, so the ISP won't see anything, and then it'll all be irrelevant anyway.
How does this apply to downloading live sets? I always thought that, by creating mixes, DJs alter the music they play into their own intellectual property, but because they wouldn't make a profit in most cases after they mix (when's the last time you saw a live set by a DJ sold in stores?) that it's ok to download. Any copyright lawyers here? :P
Jul-26-2008 19:35
elFreak
Blood Diamonds and Salsa
Registered: Feb 2008
Location: With Juan Pachanga Eating Tacos. Ah Ha Si Mi Gusta.
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Intergalactic Mimosa Station
quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
so hundreds of thousands of ppl could get a letter in the mail? what a friggin waste of paper....sucks for the UK though. cant u just use a router and then ur isp wont know what all ur bandwidth is coming from?
Jul-26-2008 19:56
r5a
snake inverter
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Toronto
quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
so hundreds of thousands of ppl could get a letter in the mail? what a friggin waste of paper....sucks for the UK though. cant u just use a router and then ur isp wont know what all ur bandwidth is coming from?
LOL.
Jul-26-2008 20:49
Ek0nomik
it ain't got that swing.
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: human beings must stop killing other human beings.
