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maluco
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Sao Paulo

I feel bad saying trance is one the worst genres out there.

Old Post Sep-07-2008 18:55  Brazil
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bscarbro
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Registered: Jul 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
The haters say EVERY Trance track is shit and those with their heads in the clouds expect everything to sound like the trance of 1999 - not gonna happen!


Very True!! I think EDM is a type of music that is always evolving and people sometimes forget that. It's funny that people can like a certain genre of EDM and then completely hate another. You've got people out there that listen to Prog house and Electro and hate "trance" where there are DJs out there like Gareth Emery who play prog house, electro, and trance in there sets and it sounds awesome.

Old Post Sep-07-2008 22:06  United States
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craigb1
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Registered: Sep 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by bscarbro
Very True!! I think EDM is a type of music that is always evolving and people sometimes forget that. It's funny that people can like a certain genre of EDM and then completely hate another. You've got people out there that listen to Prog house and Electro and hate "trance" where there are DJs out there like Gareth Emery who play prog house, electro, and trance in there sets and it sounds awesome.


i agree with that statement

Old Post Sep-08-2008 09:26  United Kingdom
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Teezdalien
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Registered: Jul 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by bscarbro
Very True!! I think EDM is a type of music that is always evolving and people sometimes forget that. It's funny that people can like a certain genre of EDM and then completely hate another. You've got people out there that listen to Prog house and Electro and hate "trance" where there are DJs out there like Gareth Emery who play prog house, electro, and trance in there sets and it sounds awesome.

Spot on. There is quality and rubbish within most genres of EDM.


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Old Post Sep-08-2008 10:56  Australia
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Tetraflux
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: England

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Originally posted by shonguiz
I think you are giving the guy waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy to much influence. Trance turned crap because everyone is searching for easy profit.


this is it.


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Old Post Sep-08-2008 11:02  United Kingdom
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Col
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Montreal, QC

quote:
Originally posted by bscarbro
It's funny that people can like a certain genre of EDM and then completely hate another.

Very true; well, not so much funny but just a bit silly.

I don't think many people genuinely hate certain genres of EDM, they just come across that way because they are desperately trying to achieve status through unrelenting criticism and condemnation - particularly of things a majority seem to like. Some people feel they are defined more by the music they think is shit than the music they like.

I mean, surely anyone knows it's foolish to denounce any genre as a whole; there will always be something to appreciate in there even if you dislike most of what you've heard. The exception to this would of course be genres that are somehow fundamentally ridiculous (for example, based more on image than musical content), but trance isn't one of those.


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richg101
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: a universal nation

trance is weak now because of the current bombardment of new music makers. young or failed dj's decide that they cant get dj sets so join the bandwagon of boring producers with no melodical creativity or soul. when 'everyone was a dj' it was ok because the guys with no flair or musical creativity would just copy big names tracklists or play the sure fire hits - they would be the war up guys. now, these similar people are copying well known artsist like for like, but without injecting any good melody into the tracks, and because they sound well mixed, these boring tracks get played otherwise armin wouldnt have enough new music to fill a weekly show. we have so many new producers with better production skills than ferry did back when he made 'out of the blue'. difference is, ferry has always been a musician with a strong melodical ability. the majority of modern day artists have little or no emotion to put into the music they make. tbh, i think its physically impossible for someone who was not around in the 1980's(listening to emotive, feel good electronica from the by-gone days) to make inspiring or emotional trance music.
The bonzai remix comp is the perfect example. how can so many well mixed tracks have been made?(the productions are seriously good!), but so little of them have any originality to them?. id be uninterested in making music if my goal was just a case of trying to imitate what has already been done in hundreds of other tracks. these producers have put a lot of hard work in to get to the point where their mixing skills are as good as they are, and i cant understand the logic behind all the hard work unless they want to make something of their own. id rather have my substandard shabby mixing skills and the drive to push myself musically than to create tyas style stuff that i know i wouldnt have bought back when trance was good (when i bought trance vinyls).


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PETRAN
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Volos, Greece

This discussion has been made 10raised to the power of 10 times before. Tranceaddict is as much dead as trance is.

Old Post Sep-08-2008 14:41  Greece
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Endre
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Space

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
It's not that there is more crap now it's just that more and more tracks are labelled 'trance' when they shouldn't be so the qualifying pool is ever expanding.

Also, ppl constantly analyzing the 'state of trance' too much just make it worse for themselves and also more challenging for producers that want to stay motivated crafting something worthwhile. The haters say EVERY Trance track is shit and those with their heads in the clouds expect everything to sound like the trance of 1999 - not gonna happen!


+1
Whatever happened to just bad and good tracks, 1 or 0, A or B.


quote:
Originally posted by chrisday
If ASOT went monthly I would listen to it, In fact if most shows went monthly I would listen to them, but the fact is there is just not enough quality out there to keep churning out 2 hour shows every week...


+1
This was a problem long before ASOT went downhill.

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El Gran Quan
tranceaddict in training



Registered: May 2005
Location: Indio, CA, USA

Soulless generic fluffy garbage like John O'Callaghan represents everything that's wrong with "Trance" today.

Old Post Sep-08-2008 18:15  Mexico
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BlueSky
Johnny Bravo



Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Progland

Armin has nothing to do with trance music. Actually he's not even trance DJ/producer anymore. He said its boring to play 2 hours only trance music, which is the biggest shit I've ever heard! Thumbs down for Armin...


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However, EDM seems to be political for some people - it's not about the music itself but it's about what the music symbolises, where the music came from, who spins it and how obscure it is.

Old Post Sep-08-2008 19:19  Bulgaria
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Viber
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: City, Country format

quote:
Originally posted by richg101
tbh, i think its physically impossible for someone who was not around in the 1980's(listening to emotive, feel good electronica from the by-gone days) to make inspiring or emotional trance music.


I think video games music counts as well

Old Post Sep-08-2008 19:28 
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