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Originally posted by El K Dee Traktor's lately been shunned off as a kiddy tool in comparison with ableton, hence the need for someone like hawtin to do a little talk about functionality. its not the question of beatmatching anymore...i dont know why people still bring this up. beatmatching is a thing of the past.

Just curious by whom? (Has Traktor been shunned as a kiddy tool?)
Also who says Djs these days have to use only a certain type of tool to do what they do? Whether it's Ableton only or Traktor only, for me I'd use whatever works for me (or combine everything tool wise.)

Also about beatmatching, well exactly. I don't think Richie has had a problem with beatmatching and used that as a reason to use Final Scratch, Traktor, Ableton, etc...

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Originally posted by El K Dee its not the question of beatmatching anymore...i dont know why people still bring this up. beatmatching is a thing of the past.

Yeah, just like pianos became a thing of the past once synthesizers became popular. Cuz y'know, pressing those ivory keys was such a huge pain in the ass.

I happen to like hearing slightly flawed sets..that audible human touch - in fact, some of the most inspiring mixes I've heard are from over a decade ago, and most certainly vinyl-only (Fumiya Tanaka's Mix-Up comes to mind). Anything that's approaching technically perfect, due to bpm matching capabilities or whatever, better be incredibly creative and well-programmed, otherwise it turns into a real snore, real fast. There are tons of solid digital d.j.s out there, but they aren't the be-all and end-all of the industry - tons of European d.j.s still use vinyl, and more than a few of us Canadians.

It's all about what comes out of the speakers.

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Originally posted by El K Dee its not the question of beatmatching anymore...i dont know why people still bring this up. beatmatching is a thing of the past.

I’ve heard one of your sets so I can totally understand why you would say that.

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Originally posted by SuperJimbo Richie Hawtin explains how he is using Traktor on stage as a digital DJ ... http://www.residentadvisor.net/feed-item.aspx?id=1840

holy fucking batman 6:51 into the video.

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Originally posted by junkie_vince I’ve heard one of your sets so I can totally understand why you would say that.

lol pwnd.

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Originally posted by PivotTechno I happen to like hearing slightly flawed sets..

the problem is nobody else does

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Originally posted by Pett lol pwnd.

pett please explain how i would be "pwnd" by a statement like that. u've never heard squat from me so stfu and sit down.

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Exactly. I was going to try to add to this but I mean I can agree w a lot of it.

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Originally posted by PivotTechno Yeah, just like pianos became a thing of the past once synthesizers became popular. Cuz y'know, pressing those ivory keys was such a huge pain in the ass. I happen to like hearing slightly flawed sets..that audible human touch - in fact, some of the most inspiring mixes I've heard are from over a decade ago, and most certainly vinyl-only (Fumiya Tanaka's Mix-Up comes to mind). Anything that's approaching technically perfect, due to bpm matching capabilities or whatever, better be incredibly creative and well-programmed, otherwise it turns into a real snore, real fast. There are tons of solid digital d.j.s out there, but they aren't the be-all and end-all of the industry - tons of European d.j.s still use vinyl, and more than a few of us Canadians. It's all about what comes out of the speakers.

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Originally posted by Pett the problem is nobody else does

Naw, wrong I got into electronic music partially because bands like The Prodigy, used DIFFERENT music, stuff that was offbeat compared to the regular stuff that was out there. Especially stuff like Aphex Twin (Richard D James.), Squarepusher, Bjork, and moreeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

I bring up Aphex Twin because he is KNOWN and famous for stuff that is 'slightly off key', I love it, always have and want more. lol

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Originally posted by Pett the problem is nobody else does

Would you please pull your head out of your ass for just a second and try to actually understand what I'm saying? Or since that's not likely to happen with any immediacy, listen to the Tanaka set and then see if you get it.

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Originally posted by junkie_vince I’ve heard one of your sets so I can totally understand why you would say that.

lol!

maybe you meant distorted? because flawed means imperfect as in it could be improved.