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Originally posted by Stino lol give me one decent example of total crap mixing on cd 1, i cant hear it, and btw its done in ableton live so i wonder what cd u have been listening

Hmmmm imo when all tracks are mixed into each other for an average of 5-10 s, resulting in minimal beatmatching, sudden transitions and/or rough breaks between tracks, I think this can be called "not so good mixing", at least.

To be more specific as you asked, just listen again to Punta del Este (great track btw) and see how it goes into Serendipity ... I don't know, maybe he was in a hurry

Regarding track selection, I'm slightly disappointed after 2 listens, there are some nice tracks on this cd, but nothing huge. I was expecting more, especially from the guys of The Blizzard, Ohmna and Benya, who are among my favorite producers.

well i like the fast transitions, i think the tracks fit pretty well with each other which makes it possible to do this fast transitions without making it sound odd. THis means that armin did a good job selecting the tracks and the order of it.

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The only moment I thought was really sick was the transition into Fake Awake Blizzard Remix and it was only sick for about 2 minutes
I wish I they released the unmixed version of fake awake the blizzard remix the other songs were formulaic trance and quite boring
not nearly as exciting as ASOT 2006 which is by far Armin's Best Work
Best Trance Compilation of All Time IMHO is ISOS 4 I love the dark atmosphere and all of the tracks fit together so well I never get tired of it
I want more deep trance dammit!

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Originally posted by Funkesthesiac69 not nearly as exciting as ASOT 2006 which is by far Armin's Best Work

How much of his work have you actually heard?

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i can see where this thread is heading for, ... pff... i think - to join the 'discussion' of good vs. bad mixing techniques on the cd's - that fast transistions are good on albums like this because i'm not bothered listening to build-ups of 2 tot 3 minutes before the track actually 'starts' (melody, break, action!)... in live mixing you don't have much choice (well actually you do, but i wont complicate matters here) but on a cd to enjoy at home, the fast transitions together with the edited tracks are fine (at least in my humble opinion). don't forget that armin was probably (although i'm not quite sure on this point) only there to "create" the tracklist and then some company mixed the tracks so that it fits the cd-length and stuff like that, ...

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Last edited by NoisyNeil on Oct-02-2008 at 12:12

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery How much of his work have you actually heard?

I listened to all of his cd's and singles I would say maybe that ASOT 2006 CD 2 is pretty good but is not undisputably his best, maybe The Boundaries of Imagination is the best CD he has done considering it was in 1998, what Magik 6 was for Tiesto Boundaries of Imagination was for Armin Van Buuren

I think armin is a much better producer than tiesto (blue fear, rising star-star theme (rising star is one of his aliases).
ASOT 2004 is also up there because both albums are awesome but ASOT 2006 CD 2 is my favorite
I love the build up

Armin's track selection these days is not that great compared to some trance DJs (Andy Moor for example)

The best trance right now is embodied by tracks like

Beauty Hides in the Deep (Blizzard Remix)
Groove Delorean in Kiev (T.A.M.A.S. Mashup)
Fallen Tides (Mat Zo Vocal Remix)
Daydream (Lemon & Einar K Progressive Remix)
Cressida-No More Lies
Rob De Lacey-Starlight(Sonic Element Remix)

And perhaps my favorite track of all time
is
David West-Make You Mine

to give u an idea of my taste, most of what I listen to besides trance consider the music of: Hernan Cattaneo, Steve porter, Desyn Masiello, Carl Cox, Miguel Migs, Jaytech..etc
Progressive Trance is my favorite tho thats probably why I like Andy Moor so much

Mr. Sam's - Cygnes is based on Claud9 - D Lake, so here's "D Lake" song This one is performed by computer, so now you know from where these vocals comes from


http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=MMRP2piy100

I love Stino's unabashed fanboyism.

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Originally posted by UWM I love Stino's unabashed fanboyism.

i love your typical reaction too...

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Originally posted by UWM I love Stino's unabashed fanboyism.

based on what? i gave a pretty critical opinion about this album actually, i just dont mind this way of mixing. But i appreciate the fact that u keep trying to find posts to bash me, moron

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Originally posted by NoisyNeil but on a cd to enjoy at home, the fast transitions together with the edited tracks are fine (at least in my humble opinion)

Well, I understand your point. I think a good track selection is one thing, but a good flow overall is another. In this case, I think the flow is pretty poor, and I disagree with Stino on the fact that all the tracks fit well together, meaning 'easy' transitions ... except one or two maybe (like bittersweet nightshade into amazon dawn for example)

I think this is a recurring problem with Armin recent efforts, his last Universal Religion compilation being the perfect example (ok it was a recorded liveset so ...). Imo it all began with ASOT 06 cd2 ... at least a half of the tracks selected where some of my favorites of the moment, but the mixing/editing were totally ruining them