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quote:
Originally posted by Search&Rescue
well, in that case:
you re-arrange any one unknown and express the other in terms of this
e.g. x + y = 400
so x = 400 - y

then you got your second equation in terms of x and y
substitute x = 400 - y into your second equation, re-arrange the terms and solve for y. Then solve for x which is just = 400 - y


yeah...I get to .6(400-y) + y = 204 without a problem...but this is where I get lost solving for y. I am just forgeting the rules....like I said...its been way too long.


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in every number you have in parentheses, you have assumed the original mass of the alloy to be either 100% copper (when you're calculating the mass of the copper in each) or 0% copper (when you're calculating the mass of contituents other than copper in each)


I don't think he is...

He's saying that 60% of the 204g is copper...122.4g...etc


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quote:
Originally posted by Search&Rescue
..and that's just one way of solving linear equations


And can you please tell me where mine was wrong?????


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I don't think he is...

He's saying that 60% of the 204g is copper...122.4g...etc


his formula is correct....I just can't figure out the long form of how to do it right now.


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quote:
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his formula is correct....I just can't figure out the long form of how to do it right now.


Yah I agree it's correct....

I just can't see where I screwed up...


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quote:
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yeah...I get to .6(400-y) + y = 204 without a problem...but this is where I get lost solving for y. I am just forgeting the rules....like I said...its been way too long.

try this then since its a little less tedious:

1) x + y = 400
2) 0.60x + 0.40y = 204

multiple 1) by 0.60 (each term on the left and right hand side)
you get:
1) 0.60x + 0.60y = 400 x 0.6

now subtract 1) from 2). you get:
0.20y = (400 x 0.6) - 204
divide both sides by 0.20 to get your final value for y

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Search&Rescue
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quote:
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I don't think he is...

He's saying that 60% of the 204g is copper...122.4g...etc


that's the problem.
you have to take 60% of the total mass of the alloy which is not 204g. That's really the unknown - what you're trying to find

204g is the sum of the copper content in BOTH alloys

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You guys were screwing up because you calculating the %60/%40 from the 204g.......when the question was asking about the ORIGINAL pieces, not the final piece.

Read the question again, and then look at your calculations. You should not be basing it on the final 204g........


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quote:
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You guys were screwing up because you calculating the %60/%40 from the 204g.......when the question was asking about the ORIGINAL pieces, not the final piece.

Read the question again, and then look at your calculations. You should not be basing it on the final 204g........


I got it figured out now....I was making things more difficult then they needed to be.


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quote:
Originally posted by cammaxwell
You guys were screwing up because you calculating the %60/%40 from the 204g.......when the question was asking about the ORIGINAL pieces, not the final piece.

Read the question again, and then look at your calculations. You should not be basing it on the final 204g........



Ahhhhhhh.....

Ok I see.......

Frickin idiot.....


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