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LazFX
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Originally posted by josh4
I wonder if he is going to be able to stem the tide.



I think it is over for the GOP on this go around.

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Troopergate investigation finds Palin ‘abused her power.’»

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The investigator authorized by the Alaska Legislative Council to examine the “Troopergate” scandal released his report today, and found that Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) “abused her power” by pushing State Police Commissioner Walt Monegan to fire her former brother-in-law Mark Wooten: For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 2952.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. Alaska Statute 2952.110(a) provides “The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.” The investigation also found that Monegan’s refusal to fire Wooten “was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public Safety.”


http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10...pergate-report/


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LazFX
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i have been channel surfing all of the news outlets and all of them except for FOX is talking about it now...

Fox

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McCain being a man and telling his rednecks to shut up

a little too late, but it was nice to correct ignorance..

by the way... anyone here from Q??

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josh4
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Originally posted by LazFX


by the way... anyone here from Q??


I brought that up a while ago about Palin and he finally responded about character assassination and blah blah. I wonder if he sees the connection...

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The worst thing about this is that the behaviour in Republican rallies is not only being ignored by the GOP, it's being actively defended:

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Earlier today, Obama remarked on recent outbursts of "Traitor!" "Terrorist!" and "Kill him!" at McCain campaign events. "It's easy to rile up a crowd," Obama said. "Nothing's easier than riling up a crowd by stoking anger and division. But that's not what we need right now in the United States."

In response, McCain senior adviser Nicolle Wallace released this statement, NBC's Kelly O'Donnell reports. "Barack Obama's assault on our supporters is insulting and unsurprising. These are the same people obama called 'bitter' and attacked for 'clinging to guns' and faith. He fails to understand that people are angry at corrupt practices in Washington and Wall Street and he fails to understand that America's working families are not 'clinging' to anything other than the sincere hope that Washington will be reformed from top to bottom."

"Attacking our supporters is a new low for the campaign that's run more millions of dollars of negative ads than any other in history."

*** UPDATE *** McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers adds in another statement: “Barack Obama’s attacks on Americans who support John McCain reveal far more about him than they do about John McCain. It is clear that Barack Obama just doesn’t understand regular people and the issues they care about. He dismisses hardworking middle class Americans as clinging to guns and religion, while at the same time attacking average Americans at McCain rallies who are angry at Washington, Wall Street and the status quo."


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/arch...10/1529529.aspx

And in case there's any doubt about where they're getting it from, I think the difference between the tone of two rallies in OH is worth posting about :

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Barack Obama spoke to a crowd of approximately 8,500 in Dayton's Fifth Third (Eighth?) Field for 40 minutes, and immediately launched into a detailed discussion of the economy. Titled the "American Jobs Tour Rally," Obama managed the subtle stagecraft of physically morphing from a suit-coated politician to a coatless, sleeves-rolled-up problem-solver.

Palin's rally featured the more impressive entrance, with giant video screens showing the crowd the slowly turning campaign bus as it approached the cavernous inside venue. Finally, the fog machines hit high blast, the huge blue curtain parted, and the bus drove right inside the hall. As "Eye of the Tiger" blasted over the loudspeakers, Palin bounded on stage to a full-throated roar. It was some pretty sweet stagecraft, (even if had Obama tried it he'd have been ridiculed for behaving as a "celebrity").

Palin's comments were entirely general. There were few specifics on the economy besides freezing spending and a pledge to balance the budget. Despite brief allusions to economic worries, there was no discussion of how America finds itself in this mess. To do so, she explicitly argued, was to dwell on the past rather than look to the future.

[...]She spent about 10% of the time talking about Bill Ayers. "Ambition explains launching your political career in the living room of an unrepentant terrorist," Palin said, punctuated by four or five loud shouts of "Terrorist!' from the crowd.

Obama's rally featured the chant, "Obama! Obama!" Palin's crowd chanted "Nobama!" twice. With brio. It struck me that the big chant in Carson City was "Drill Baby Drill!" but here when that chant came up it was soft, half-hearted, and uncoordinated. "Nobama!" had the juice. Not even "Sarah!" could trump "Nobama!"

The language that the two candidates used on yet another rough economic day showed contrast. For Obama's part, threaded through an extensive discussion of economic policy were repeated phrases: "I have confidence," "I believe in you," "we can do this," "we're in this together," and "together, we cannot fail." On the other hand, Palin's comments were directed at Obama -- she was in full hockey agitator mode -- "terrorist," "judgment," "ambition." As for DHL shutting down 8,000 jobs in Wilmington, "we're gonna do something about it." Obama is afraid of mavericks. And Obama is a very dangerous guy who can't be trusted. Big disconnect from the day's events.

The coup de grace was her closing statement, a direct assertion that Obama was a coward.

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So you know, Ohio, from now until Election Day, you're gonna hear our opponents go on and on about how they'll, quote, fight for you. But since my running mate won't say this on his own behalf I will say it for him. And that is, in this campaign there is only one man who has every really fought for you. The only man who has ever really fought for you and the only man with courage.


Contrast with Obama's closing message:

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Together, we cannot fail. Not now. Not when we have a crisis to solve and an economy to save. Not when there are so many Americans without jobs and without homes. Not when there are families who can’t afford to see a doctor, or send their child to college, or pay their bills at the end of the month. Not when there is a generation that is counting on us to give them the same opportunities and the same chances that we had for ourselves.

We can do this. Americans have done this before. Some of us had grandparents or parents who said maybe I can’t go to college but my child can; maybe I can’t have my own business but my child can. I may have to rent, but maybe my children will have a home they can call their own. I may not have a lot of money but maybe my child will run for Senate. I might live in a small village but maybe someday my son can be president of the United States of America.

Now it falls to us. Together, we cannot fail.



Obama spent almost his whole speech talking about the economy. Palin showed she was capable of talking specifics, but only when breaking down the exact whens and wheres of Obama meeting Ayers, and who said what when, on what interview. Very, very detailed. It was jarring -- the absence of detailed economic discussion. Most people think we're heading for another depression. I think it works well on people already sold on voting Republican but not as well on undecided voters or independents.


http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008...llies-ohio.html

I would very much like to see how the few remaining Republicans on this board can defend all this.

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josh4
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quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
The worst thing about this is that the behaviour in Republican rallies is not only being ignored by the GOP, it's being actively defended:



http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/arch...10/1529529.aspx

And in case there's any doubt about where they're getting it from, I think the difference between the tone of two rallies in OH is worth posting about :



Contrast with Obama's closing message:


http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008...llies-ohio.html

I would very much like to see how the few remaining Republicans on this board can defend all this.


I feel sorry for McCain, I really don't think any of it is him. I think the wrong people have hijacked his campaign or are exerting pressure on him so he has no choice but to go along with it. I wonder when someone will just sidestep him completely as if serving a higher cause. She has already done it with Wright. How can he lead if he can't even control his base and his campaign?

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quote:
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I feel sorry for McCain, I really don't think any of it is him. I think the wrong people have hijacked his campaign or are exerting pressure on him so he has no choice but to go along with it. I wonder when someone will just sidestep him completely as if serving a higher cause. She has already done it with Wright. How can he lead if he can't even control his base and his campaign?


He can't control all elements of GOP behaviour, of course, but it would be naive to presume that he has no say whatsoever in what's happening at the moment. Early in the campaign, he came out publically in condemnation of his surrogates referring to Barack "Hussein" Obama when introducing him and that was effective in putting an end to that practice (for a while). Now his campaign is going down the far more insidious path of calling Obama a terrorist and he's completely silent on the issue.

Fuck him, quite frankly. I'm going to enjoy watching his concession speech.

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Actually, just saw this, I'm happy to take back some of what I said earlier:



Would have been easy to pander to those dead-shits, but - full credit to him - he rose above it on this occasion and was rewarded with jeers from the audience. Fairly classy performance considering the degenerating tone of the campaign, so one can only hope that this sort of rhetoric wins out from here on in. With Palin on the case and preaching a completely contradictory message, however, I'm not so confident of that.

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Q5echo
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Originally posted by Zild
Maybe, and I would like to see it, but I haven't seen a large mass of Obama supporters spouting off straight hate in such a vulgar fashion.


this wasn't edited to highlight the dumbest interviewrs



if you don't (anybody really) think there aren't jackasses with distorted opinions on both sides of this thing youre high.

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Originally posted by Renegade
Would have been easy to pander to those dead-shits, but - full credit to him - he rose above it on this occasion and was rewarded with jeers from the audience. Fairly classy performance considering the degenerating tone of the campaign, so one can only hope that this sort of rhetoric wins out from here on in. With Palin on the case and preaching a completely contradictory message, however, I'm not so confident of that.


he has to bring this stuff out. Rezko, Ayers, Fannie and Freddie, ACORN. he has to. the media has taken it's side in this fight and theyre not going to air it.

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Originally posted by Q5echo
this wasn't edited to highlight the dumbest interviewrs


Down with intellectuals!


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