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Yohan
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Registered: Jan 2004
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Re: Drumcode Tour pushes into the red in Toronto

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Originally posted by jer79
But has he? The music was so loud in the DJ booth when Adam started his set at 2am, that for shits and giggles, I downloaded an app from the iPhone’s app store called Decibel Meter.


A few seconds before the iPhone died

‘Ever wondered how loud a sound really is? Well now you can with Decibel Meter!’ was the sell that hooked me.

Backstage, with two closed doors in between the iPhone and the DJ booth the counter peaked at about 106 db, roughly the same loudness as a chainsaw.

In the DJ booth though, the app couldn’t handle the overwhelming noise and it crashed.

“Adam always likes to come on and turn the levels up,” explained fellow Drumcoder Joel Mull, whilst pointing at the Allen & Heath Xone:92 mixer, its channels now clipping red.

“He likes to play techno loud.”

Adam explained his philosophy later.

“This is techno, and it’s supposed to be loud. You need to feel the music, and it has to be right in your face.”

ugh. I just don't understand this

louder, does not equate to better!

when the mixer is clipping red, it means the sound is getting distorted, esp on A&H mixers even in yellow you start noticing some distortions. green is good. red is BAD.

if you want the volume to be louder, tell the sound tech to turn the amp up, or turn up the master volume on the mixer. don't turn the gain up


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not true. i say "ugh"
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lol colour me retarded

Old Post Oct-14-2008 18:51  Canada
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jchung52
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Re: Re: Drumcode Tour pushes into the red in Toronto

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ugh. I just don't understand this

louder, does not equate to better!

when the mixer is clipping red, it means the sound is getting distorted, esp on A&H mixers even in yellow you start noticing some distortions. green is good. red is BAD.

if you want the volume to be louder, tell the sound tech to turn the amp up, or turn up the master volume on the mixer. don't turn the gain up


lol sad mistake gaudino made in london hahah


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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe
Re: Re: Drumcode Tour pushes into the red in Toronto

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when the mixer is clipping red, it means the sound is getting distorted, esp on A&H mixers even in yellow you start noticing some distortions. green is good. red is BAD.

The volume was actually fine there. Didn't need earplugs, and didn't have any ringing at the end.

One of the best things about Circa in my (limited) experience is that they seem to be able to get it pretty loud without hurting your ears. Was perfect for a hard set like Beyer's.


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Registered: Dec 2004
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Beyer knows what he is doing....trust that. I was in the booth the whole time and it never distorted once....the whole point of his style is to be loud hence "DRUMCODE" Yes it was in the red but he knows exactly what he is doing....its not like he is an amature and dosent know good sound. He has been playing since 94 and there are only a few artist in techno that I can say that about.

BEYER=Legend


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Yohan
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Kitchener, Ont, Soviet Canuckistan

quote:
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Beyer knows what he is doing....trust that. I was in the booth the whole time and it never distorted once....the whole point of his style is to be loud hence "DRUMCODE" Yes it was in the red but he knows exactly what he is doing....its not like he is an amature and dosent know good sound. He has been playing since 94 and there are only a few artist in techno that I can say that about.

BEYER=Legend

you'd be surprised...

i wonder if we do an analysis of a beyer set, how the wavelines look like


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not true. i say "ugh"
but i am a tranny.
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lol colour me retarded

Old Post Oct-14-2008 23:13  Canada
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DigiNut
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quote:
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you'd be surprised...

i wonder if we do an analysis of a beyer set, how the wavelines look like

Buddy, stop acting like you know so much. Yes, in the red means it's clipping, but on analog equipment the only distortion is 2nd-order harmonics, which sound fine to the human ear. It's different in the digital domain where you have aliasing distortion, but that's not what we're talking about.

What do you think "overdrive" is? It's clipping distortion, and people started using it as an effect because it sounded good. Doesn't mean you should clip and distort anything and everything, but it's all about context. Get over yourself, you didn't even go to this event and you're going to complain to those of us who did that Beyer's set was too distorted?

It's not even called a "waveline", it's a waveform.


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Yohan
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quote:
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Buddy, stop acting like you know so much. Yes, in the red means it's clipping, but on analog equipment the only distortion is 2nd-order harmonics, which sound fine to the human ear. It's different in the digital domain where you have aliasing distortion, but that's not what we're talking about.

What do you think "overdrive" is? It's clipping distortion, and people started using it as an effect because it sounded good. Doesn't mean you should clip and distort anything and everything, but it's all about context. Get over yourself, you didn't even go to this event and you're going to complain to those of us who did that Beyer's set was too distorted?

It's not even called a "waveline", it's a waveform.

Excuse me if I didn't use the correct term

I made a comment about distortion in general. Who said anything about complaining?


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not true. i say "ugh"
but i am a tranny.
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lol colour me retarded

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Jem_hadar
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Registered: Nov 2003
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“He likes to play techno loud.”

Adam explained his philosophy later.

“This is techno, and it’s supposed to be loud.


Ya, baby, YEAH!! <3 <3


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haha whats with tota ripping on each other this week? serotonin a little low from anniversary parties? jeeeeebuz go buy some 5htp


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Registered: Apr 2004
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haha whats with tota ripping on each other this week? serotonin a little low from anniversary parties? jeeeeebuz go buy some 5htp


Maybe they should have taken pure pills instead like you recommend.


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geroin
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Re: Drumcode Tour pushes into the red in Toronto

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"The floor of the small DJ booth was one big puddle of Jagermeister, vodka, cranberry juice, broken glass and beer – the growling bass had caused all the drinks and bottles to shuffle towards the edge of a shelf like lemmings, before committing themselves to a messy suicide."


haha so cool.

i agree with digi, sound in that room was perfect all night.

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