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Ian
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
It can't work when you have 300m people. Not in the way that others want it anyways.


it doesn't work with 65m people.

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MrJiveBoJingles
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What difference does the number of people make if the ratio of average-healthcare-cost-per-person to average-taxes-paid-per-person is the same?

As long as you have the appropriate portion of people paying into the system and you make a health budget that reflects accurately what your actual costs are going to be, there should be no difference between a country of a million people and a country of a billion.

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iammesol
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I think I might vote tomorrow

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Allied Nations
Make it happen cap'n



Registered: Mar 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
What makes it working better than our private system? I really have yet to see good reasons from our private system (aside from the uninsured)


isnt that one enough?


amerika is civilized nashun!


I think it should be the opposite project-k... pay for basic healthcare and when shit really hits the fan (100K operations etc etc) have the guv kick it...


no matter whats included basically, its those huge operations that really kill the uninsured/less insured


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gehzumteufel
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Registered: Nov 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
it doesn't work with 65m people.

haha I know. I said that earlier in the thread.

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Britain is a great example. 60m people and it is crumbling under its own weight.


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i'm gonna shake my titties when i vote.


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Allied Nations
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
What difference does the number of people make if the ratio of average-healthcare-cost-per-person to average-taxes-paid-per-person is the same?

As long as you have the appropriate portion of people paying into the system and you make a health budget that reflects accurately what your actual costs are going to be, there should be no difference between a country of a million people and a country of a billion.



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iammesol
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quote:
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I think it should be the opposite project-k... pay for basic healthcare and when shit really hits the fan (100K operations etc etc) have the guv kick it...
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That makes way more sense imo.

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MrJiveBoJingles
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quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
theory vs practice mai frend

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gehzumteufel
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
What difference does the number of people make if the ratio of average-healthcare-cost-per-person to average-taxes-paid-per-person is the same?

As long as you have the appropriate portion of people paying into the system and you make a health budget that reflects accurately what your actual costs are going to be, there should be no difference between a country of a million people and a country of a billion.

Because with socialized healthcare, you have a large number of people that are able to use the system and not even work or contribute. Couple this with a large number of older folks that require expensive care.


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Project-K
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quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
isnt that one enough?


amerika is civilized nashun!


I think it should be the opposite project-k... pay for basic healthcare and when shit really hits the fan (100K operations etc etc) have the guv kick it...


no matter whats included basically, its those huge operations that really kill the uninsured/less insured


Well the system still pays for big operations if you can't afford it, it's just that you get a slightly longer waiting line.

But I do think there should be basic fees associated with healthcare. The problem is, if you have something mild like a larynx infection and require antibiotics, you have to wait hours in line because there's a hundred people in front of you who have itchy toes. It might make all those people think twice about going to the doctor for insignificant matters.


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quote:
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Because with socialized healthcare, you have a large number of people that are able to use the system and not even work or contribute. Couple this with a large number of older folks that require expensive care.

This is a problem in any country, not just highly populated ones. Why would the percentage of free-riders be larger in a highly populated country than in a less populous one? You have to establish that it would be larger, in order for the "it can't work in large countries" argument to make sense.

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