oh oh oh and don't forget the US trade agreement, which should really be called "Australia, the 51st state of the US agreement". (How come we didn't get to vote for Obama yesterday, we are basically another part of the US..)

oh and this forum could probably be considered illegal as well, since people can talk about anything. OH GNOES THEY CAN TALK ABOUT ILLEGAL THINGS. BLOCK BLOCK BLOCK!

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Originally posted by sunrise3500 oh oh oh and don't forget the US trade agreement, which should really be called "Australia, the 51st state of the US agreement". (How come we didn't get to vote for Obama yesterday, we are basically another part of the US..)

free trade agreements are a good thing.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN free trade agreements are a good thing.

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go take a look at what it actually is, it's not just about trade.

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Originally posted by sunrise3500 ... go take a look at what it actually is, it's not just about trade.

strategic alliances are also a good thing.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN strategic alliances are also a good thing.

there's a reason why previous governments refused to sign it...

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Originally posted by sunrise3500 there's a reason why previous governments refused to sign it...

well, perhaps instead of beating around the bush you could present an argument about what you don't like about it.

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Originally posted by sunrise3500 ... go take a look at what it actually is, it's not just about trade.

No, PKC is right. Free Trade is a very good thing for Australia, especially since we export so much.

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Originally posted by Fledz No, PKC is right. Free Trade is a very good thing for Australia, especially since we export so much.

the free trade agreement HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FREE TRADE.

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Originally posted by sunrise3500 the free trade agreement HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FREE TRADE.

then educate us. what is it about?

It's a huge mother of a thing.

for a start...
Our copyright laws are changed.
Actually sets RESTRICTIONS on some of our exports with the US.
Break a US law and the US can have you extradited so you face trial there rather than charged and tried here (There are instances of this happening).
the whole thing with the PBS (In short, potentially leading to higher drug prices).

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Originally posted by sunrise3500 It's a huge mother of a thing. for a start... Our copyright laws are changed. Actually sets RESTRICTIONS on some of our exports with the US. Break a US law and the US can have you extradited so you face trial there rather than charged and tried here (There are instances of this happening). the whole thing with the PBS (In short, potentially leading to higher drug prices).

that does sound pretty fucked :/

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN that does sound pretty fucked :/

That's why previous governments refused to enter a FTA, not in our interests... But who wouldn't refuse? Howard...

Only thing really missing from it is Australians getting to vote in the US election.

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