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Tenshi
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Mödling, Austria

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Originally posted by woscar99
Nice read, I can attest that a lot of the DJs that open for the big names that whenever they spin here can learn a lot from that article. I remember this guy who was opening for Digweed played Gridlock, Coma, and about 3 or 4 other tunes from Transitions 3 within the last hour of his set (It was during his Transitions 3 Tour). Fucking idiot.


lol awesome! did digweed react to this?

i think it's the biggest "NO" to play tracks from the artist who plays after you, especially new tracks!

the article was quite good and most of it is obvious but i agree on the people saying that the last track shouldn't be boring! i quite like it when the warmup dj plays more danceable stuff the last 10 to 15 minutes. Then the headliner can start with a pretty full dancefloor most of the time!

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Domesticated
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Um...yes. Not every set has to be an essential mix.


Can you read? I never said an opening set should end with "booming" music. I only said it's not hard to go from zero to boom in 2 hours.


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Can you read?

Apparently not.


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Stormbringer
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Registered: Aug 2008
Location: Ramstein, Germany / Houston, Texas

....I don't know what to make of this...I've never really opened up for a big name but I used to be a resident DJ, in Germany, and I would play for the whole night, some times. Yes, I would always start out slow...but people, for the most part, come to dance...not fuckin' sit on their asses to relax...before they dance...

I do know, when I first started to rave, that I was ready to dance as soon as I reached the club!! Not sit on my ass because the DJ was throwing boring tunes. At least, that's how it was when I started learning how to DJ in 1994..and started raving even before that time (1988/1989)... People are pumped and full of energy when they reach the club or rave! And they need a warm up session that lasts over an hour, now?? WTF?? What are they?? Fuckin' 60??

And if you throw bangin' music, they will come....but I still believe in warming up...but not for your whole damn set. Not even for half of your set! Get the floor packed, for the headliner! If you need relaxation before you dance, or if you tire easy, what the fuck are you doing at the club or rave?? And I don't believe you have to play boring music, with no melody, to warm up. There are a lot of great warm up songs that have nice flowing melody. You can use those tunes to make your journey set.

I'll start out slow. Then go high energy. Then hard....Then around 3am to 4am...I'll throw some dark calm tunes, like this ( [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
- awesome song if the club has great laser cannons!!) to calm people down again....then go to hard and energy and then finally the sun set...set...I don't just play one type of music. That gets boring to the dancers and to the DJ....

Another thing....I know a lot of DJs, who has been caught as the "warm up" DJ role. You might wanna be careful on that. Cause, they only get booked as a warm up DJ, now...I don't think any DJ wants to be caught in that role!

How's this for an opening set??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S68RxWx-BfA

And I only believe, in warm up sets, in a club environment...As for outside raves??? You think they have warm up sets at the Love Parade?? They didn't in 1997 and 1998, in Berlin. I do know that....


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noikeee
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You play hardstyle and hard trance. It's a completely different set of styles, mentality and people.

When I arrive to a club I don't want to start raving straight away and I don't feel comfortable to rave straight away. I like checking out the place, talking to friends (as much as the loud music allows), meeting people, slowly taking a drink or two while getting on the rhythm. I actually enjoy a lot slow deep house, it's my favourite kind of music. Now, if I was an hardstyle kiddie that took 2 pills right before entering the club, dying to jump and down the whole night, I'd probably see things in a different light.


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Stormbringer
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Yeah, but I also play club trance (trance), too. (note-look at my last mix in my sig) Also a little hard house and techno. Most DJs, I know in Germany, don't just collect and spin one style of trance. You can play all styles of trance (and techno and hard house) during the night. You just have to know how to put the journey together. And you don't need pills to get high. Just the music.

And do you really need to relax and stroll around the club for over an hour?? Seriously...


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The article is pretty obvious but those points are really important for opening a club night. In my hometown, most of the DJs have huge disrespect for minimal and tech house & like to start nights with immense bangers even when there are only 2 people in the room.

Being able to put your ego aside and play a mellow set leaves a lot of room for a bangers later in the night.

Thanks for posting this!

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Stormbringer
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It's not really about ego, to me. There's always room for bangers at a club or rave. And not just later in the night. Who needs to wait over an hour for the bagin' music?? I don't need to...I wanna dance. Not sit on my ass, for over an hour, because the opening DJ is throwing down nothing but boring calm music, with no melody,....for three hours strait...fuck that...I'll get up and leave the club, before listening to two to three hours of calm music...or get up and smack the DJ, upside the head, instead....Jk...I wouldn't do that..but I would probably give him a dirty look as I was leaving the club...


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quote:
Originally posted by Stormbringer
It's not really about ego, to me. There's always room for bangers at a club or rave. And not just later in the night. Who needs to wait over an hour for the bagin' music?? I don't need to...I wanna dance. Not sit on my ass, for over an hour, because the opening DJ is throwing down nothing but boring calm music, with no melody,....for three hours strait...fuck that...I'll get up and leave the club, before listening to two to three hours of calm music...or smack the DJ upside the head....


Y'know, it's totally possible to off to calm minimal type stuff.

I've opened raves with hardcore acid, so it's not like what you are saying isn't making any sense. But honestly - modern clubbing culture isn't like raves.

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Stormbringer
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But honestly - modern clubbing culture isn't like raves.
I'm talking about clubs, too. But think about it...Do you really think today's "modern" clubbing culture is actually better than the culture, when the scene was really bangin' in the 90s?? Sometimes change is not always for the better...


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Originally posted by Stormbringer
I'm talking about clubs, too. But think about it...Do you really think today's "modern" clubbing culture is actually better than the culture, when the scene was really bangin' in the 90s??


I don't think it's better. Still, it's not worth pretending.

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Originally posted by mehta
I don't think it's better. Still, it's not worth pretending.
But it's worth bringing back the ol' school ways..


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