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Lira
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quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
(For all you that are confused with "tsarist", it is because you are used to seeing it spelled as "csar". Czar is technically incorrect. )

It's not that it isn't correct... it just prioritises etymology over original pronunciation (which is not an uncommon thing to do in Western Europe), because of the different ways the word Caesar evolved in the many European languages:
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1555, from Rus. tsar, from Old Slavic tsesari, from Gothic kaisar, from Gk. kaisar, from L. Caesar. First adopted by Russian emperor Ivan IV, 1547.
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So, all they did was keep the original "K" sound present in "Kaiser" (which was probably present in the original pronunciation of "Caesar"), and make it sound bit like the Russian word


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gehzumteufel
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
It's not that it isn't correct... it just prioritises etymology over original pronunciation (which is not an uncommon thing to do in Western Europe), because of the different ways the word Caesar evolved in the many European languages:
[Source]

So, all they did was keep the original "K" sound present in "Kaiser" (which was probably present in the original pronunciation of "Caesar"), and make it sound bit like the Russian word

Well then my kind fellow. I was unaware of this.


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yeah and cut your fucking hair

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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
It's not that it isn't correct... it just prioritises etymology over original pronunciation (which is not an uncommon thing to do in Western Europe), because of the different ways the word Caesar evolved in the many European languages:
[Source]

So, all they did was keep the original "K" sound present in "Kaiser" (which was probably present in the original pronunciation of "Caesar"), and make it sound bit like the Russian word

What? There's no "K" in that Slavic pronunciation. It's still a "C" sound, even if it begins with TS.


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Jake Benson
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Re: Re: Holocaust Denial

quote:
Originally posted by ********
While I am not a holocaust denier, I am not a holocaust supporter.

...

Anyone who doesn't have primary source evidence eg. experiencing or seeing something themself has the right not to beleive.


So if someone killed your grandma, I could deny it ever happened because I didn't live to see it?

Culture is developed so that humans can learn from historically primary sources through secondary sources. If you want to doubt insurmountable amounts of documents showing certain events did exist, then you have the right not to believe it, but likewise people with half a brain have the right to think that you're a fucking idiot.


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They left paperbag alive.... :-/



thank the torah for that!

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I think the holocaust was bad.

vote for me in 2012


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Re: Re: Re: Holocaust Denial

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Culture is developed so that humans can learn from historically primary sources through secondary sources.


No, that would be why history was developed. Culture predates recorded documentation.

quote:
If you want to doubt insurmountable amounts of documents showing certain events did exist, then you have the right not to believe it, but likewise people with half a brain have the right to think that you're a fucking idiot.


Likewise, if I write down thousands of seemingly outlandish ideas that all correlate with one another, have I created the truth?


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Jake Benson
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Holocaust Denial

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
No, that would be why history was developed. Culture predates recorded documentation.


No I am still right.

Culture was used before documentations so that humans could learn vicariously instead of learning the hard way (in person). That's why language was developed, so mom could tell her son, "don't go into that forest because a lion will eat you." (as opposed to the son not knowing his mother has encountered lots of angry lions in the forest and he goes into the forest and gets his arm bit off). The same is true for documenting history, as you said. But that doesn't mean it's incorrect for culture.

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Likewise, if I write down thousands of seemingly outlandish ideas that all correlate with one another, have I created the truth?


Sorry but the Bible doesn't count as literal historical documentation.

So are you saying thousands of people testifying to witnessing or being in the holocaust was just a bunch of outlandish ideas that all correlate with one another? I suppose slavery was a hoax too. Why do black people believe in that fairy tale?


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