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Zild
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: evolution and the soul

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Originally posted by Blake
Yes, and The Pope also believes a giant magical unicorn created the entire Universe in 6 days and rested on the 7th which is just silly. Everyone knows it took 8 days minimum..


You know Catholics don't take that literally and believe that animals do have souls.


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Old Post Dec-03-2008 16:42  United States
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Moral Hazard
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: evolution and the soul

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Originally posted by Zild
You know Catholics don't take that literally


True

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and believe that animals do have souls.


False (unless I missed a memo from the Holy See).


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you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Zild
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According to the Magisterium both plants and animals have souls but not the same as a human soul. Unless they changed that, but I went to catholic schools my whole life.


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jupiterone
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Registered: Dec 2004
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Re: Re: Re: Re: evolution and the soul

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i also think that if god really did want to set us apart from all other life on earth, he should have given us the force instead.


YES

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JD ėtictsile



Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Laval, Quebec

quote:
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both plants and animals have souls


Thanks, you just made my salad much more delicious.


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Zild
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It's OK. Those plants didn't have a free will.


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PETRAN
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Registered: Feb 2004
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Actually, I think every forum needs to be a little bit of both: stupidity too brings us together



Yeah, but why i fear that TA leans toward stupidity lol



Not that it is bad, due to this mentality the CoR has a really "distinctive" feel that has to be witnessed. Its like a cyber-tourist attraction of some sorts...




Oh and guys read my post lol (shameless)

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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast

quote:
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Oh and guys read my post lol (shameless)


I read your post and it was great - lots of interesting information and results. It seems to me that perhaps the notion of the soul emerged from particularly traumatic or powerfully emotional experiences which jarred these very mental responses observed in the study and that, since the very shamanistic days nefardec mentioned in his excellent post, the very concept of the soul has indeed evolved as well; source of argument in this regard being how the evolution of the concept has indicated to an industry of profity for some people: religion. And I'm not just speaking monetary profit.

Envision that ancient people were afraid of things they simply did not understand - perhaps to them, our standard of logic was something of impossibility. Imagine, if you will, how they would reationalize natural phenomenons such as lightning. *CRASH!* The women and children begin to cry, everyone flinches - the man with an answer is their leader. He says that the Gods have done this - who knows why he says such a thing? Perhaps he is just bullshitting everybody so that he can have some sort of pride, perhaps he truly believes this because his latest herbal trip has "revealed" the true nature of such things to him, or perhaps one of the Gods really did come down and tell him to be fearful of his wrath and is now displaying it for all to tremble in worship. The clergy is established. Believers flock to his charisma and wisdom. People no longer need to find out "why" - this man has the answers. And so life goes on, the cruel weight of greater beings bearing upon the egos of individuals - but at least they are free in death, right? Oh dear, this challenge faces the now high-priest of the tribe - but alas! We have souls now and the Gods' wrath will reach you in death tenfold should you cease to worship them and their Earthly representatives.


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kadomony
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Philly
Re: Re: evolution and the soul

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From a panpsychist view everything has "a soul" (whatever that means).


Or maybe the "soul"= high degree of self-awareness


this, but "soul" = the inherent BEING in everything.
being as in existing, not like a "human-being"


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Halcyon+On+On
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Would some beings have a "stronger" soul than others?


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JD ėtictsile



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Originally posted by Zild
It's OK. Those plants didn't have a free will.


Great, now it tastes bland again.


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quote:
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It's OK. Those plants didn't have a free will.


idiot

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