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KiNeTiC ENeRgY
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Boca Raton

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Wrong. There IS a demand for this and cars like it from companies like Ford, Chevy, and Chrysler. Also, this car has been designed and all that by the Germans.


I hope your not in the US, cause your clueless. There is very low demand for American cars, except for the so called exotics. The demand has been low for a decade. Americans are buying Jap and Euro cars. The Unions are not the reason for the big 3's bankruptcy, it's lack of sales due to shitty cars we do not want to own.

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gehzumteufel
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: so cal

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
I hope your not in the US, cause your clueless. There is very low demand for American cars, except for the so called exotics. The demand has been low for a decade. Americans are buying Jap and Euro cars. The Unions are not the reason for the big 3's bankruptcy, it's lack of sales due to shitty cars we do not want to own.

They would not decide to bring the car to the US if there was no demand. They previously had decided not to bring the car to the states. Then after many expressing their interest in the machine, they decided to bring it over.

Also, I would never say that the unions are the ONLY reason for their failure, but it is a part of the problem. When you have some dumb fuck making $60/hr and complaining about his wage being too low when he lives in Detroit, that is a fucking problem. I make way less and live in one of the most expensive states. Don't tell me that the unions weren't part of the problem. Now run along to your stupid fuck environment.


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we_R_DNA
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Right, Here

2009? Fiesta? WOW they should of piled a bunch of Mexicans into the back instead of a Zebra's head then unleashed them once you show how many miles per gallon it got across the BORDER!

This is fucking 2009 dammit; we want HOVER CARS!

As long as we live in the past; we will stay in the past:

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XaNaX
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Registered: Jun 2004
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The unions are and always have been their biggest problem. When you have in the neighborhood of $2,000 per vehicle in legacy costs that is a problem. The unions refused to accept reasonable wages for the work they do and reasonable benefits for their retirees and for years everything was ok for them as they operated like a parasite sucking the life out of the US automakers. But they got too greedy and now they have nearly killed their hosts.

Add the union issues to a reputation of supplying an inferior products, failure to react to changing customer demands, too many models (do Chevy, Pontiac, and Saturn really all need to sell their own version of the same car?), and a frozen credit market and you get the big 3 begging for taxpayer cash to keep them afloat. The government needs to be very careful with these bailouts and make sure they are all done as good deals for the taxpayer in the end and not just free money for mismanaged companies. The last thing we need to be doing is bailing out every business that fails.

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gehzumteufel
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Registered: Nov 2005
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The unions are and always have been their biggest problem. When you have in the neighborhood of $2,000 per vehicle in legacy costs that is a problem. The unions refused to accept reasonable wages for the work they do and reasonable benefits for their retirees and for years everything was ok for them as they operated like a parasite sucking the life out of the US automakers. But they got too greedy and now they have nearly killed their hosts.

Not only that, but they had that "job bank" that had as many as 15,000 workers being paid when they weren't even working at its peak. This is now down to 3,000 but is about to be eliminated.

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Add the union issues to a reputation of supplying an inferior products, failure to react to changing customer demands, too many models (do Chevy, Pontiac, and Saturn really all need to sell their own version of the same car?), and a frozen credit market and you get the big 3 begging for taxpayer cash to keep them afloat. The government needs to be very careful with these bailouts and make sure they are all done as good deals for the taxpayer in the end and not just free money for mismanaged companies. The last thing we need to be doing is bailing out every business that fails.

The product overlap has been one of the domestics WORST decisions and business practices they have ever had. Aside from renting a building they were in for 30 years and then purchasing it for 680m and then selling it, or at least attempting to, when they are in a bad situation.


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Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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nchs09
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Registered: Sep 2003
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Just noticed there is a road sign on this road test that says "wilfords cum lake"



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adi_hanson
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Registered: Dec 2007
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Just noticed there is a road sign on this road test that says "wilfords cum lake"




Yeah , public wanking (or dogging) is confined to special areas in the UK


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