I understand Hamas' frustration, as well as the Israeli one. But I do believe that once Hamas actually does cease fire, Israel will too.

The solution to this conflict is outside of the occupied territory, It starts with getting neighboring Arab leaders of their asses and to start looking out for the people's welfare rather than that of their Swiss bank accounts.

Here is a little short story tied to this conflict:

My girlfriend's family lives in Gaza, their house is far from any Hamas military holdings. 2 days ago, the phone rang, her 13 year old sister answered and a man with a Hebrew accent demanded she tells him the location of a man (i forgot the name) who she never heard off. She told him she did not know that person and that lead to a threat by the person on the other side of the phone. That same night, the family went to spend the night at the grandmother's house. The next morning, the area their house was at was bombed by an air strike, and their house was destroyed.

So much for targeting Hamas...

^Holy shit man thats unreal

Sorry for the loss though

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Originally posted by mdabat Here is a little short story tied to this conflict: My girlfriend's family lives in Gaza, their house is far from any Hamas military holdings. 2 days ago, the phone rang, her 13 year old sister answered and a man with a Hebrew accent demanded she tells him the location of a man (i forgot the name) who she never heard off. She told him she did not know that person and that lead to a threat by the person on the other side of the phone. That same night, the family went to spend the night at the grandmother's house. The next morning, the area their house was at was bombed by an air strike, and their house was destroyed. So much for targeting Hamas...

A friend of a friend told our friend this story, which he then told me about these guys with hebrew accents (which a 13 yr old girl heard, and told her parents, which then told their friend, which then told our mutual friend, who told my friend who told me) that just bombed the shit out of innocent people. Or was it Hamas? or were they looking for payment for a deal they made? I'm not quote sure, but see what happened was there was a bombing, and I think they purposefully destroyed their house, or was it the neighbour's house, or was it a house 3 blocks away that had shady people going through it. I'm not really sure, but basically, isreal is evil and they bomb innocent people because of this story.


Anyway,
my two cents on the conflict: you'd have to be pretty retarded to get brainwashed by either side of the confict. The Muslims in the palestine area think it's a war of religions, and the israelis are getting money and orders from elsewhere. There is no simple solution. Maybe a compromise, but seeing how much brainwashing is going on, I don't know if it's possible.

demolish everything and turn it into a starbucks lol

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Originally posted by Anas Attia Tatgirl, you are brainwashed by the media, I'm not trying to be a jerk but please do some research and reasoning first... the type that doesn't come from American/Israeli TV stations, newspapers and radio stations. I urge you to use critical thinking and just watch the movie I suggested. you have to do some of your own research before making allegations like that. The core of the problem is not what you expect. I have researched this issue since I started university, I'm majoring in business and doing my second major in neurology... I'm just trying to prove that I'm not talking out of my ass there's some logic behind this I have spent endless hours studying the issue. I can point you to many Independent sources of information that will prove my point of view, but you will not find any to support yours other than the media sources stated above.

No offence taken.

So, only the American and Israeli's skewing news reports? They are the only biased ones? Are you kidding???? Do you remember the footage of a Palestinian funeral where, as usual, the body was being carried on a stretcher thru the streets, draped in a flag, blame pointed at Israel for some attack, and the stretcher tipped over, body fell off, and low and behold, he got up and RAN? This was all captured on film.

As I said, I am very sympathetic to the Palestinian people. I would LOVE for their to be a resolution tomorrow, as would many Israelis. But Israel is calling for peace, and the other sides are calling for destrucion. Its not going to go far with that balance. I haven't watched your movie because I haven't had time, but I will later today.

Again, you avoided my initial questions as to why you dont admit any wrongdoing or accountability on Hamas's part, or answer why you dont offer solutions rather than point fingers. What do YOU think is the solution? You've 'researched' it, so enlighten us with your solution.

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Even though both sides are at fault; I'm with the Palestinians on this one.

Try living under occupation day in and day out as the governing force destroys ur people and ur land, and limits ur resources so
that things have to be rationed in order to survive...sound familiar???


And when they try and fight back, OMG they're terrorists.

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Originally posted by misterpink Nothing like bombing the shit out of the oppressed while the world is distracted with the Christmas season. Congrats to Israel for sinking to new lows, even if they had to dig to do it. Fucking scumbag of a country.

Bomb the crap out of them....bomb everyone....GO ISRAEL

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced Bomb the crap out of them....bomb everyone....GO ISRAEL

bomb everyone? I knew u were a prick but this is low even for u

Even though this is not realistic; taking religion out of the mix would make things a lot more stable

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Originally posted by T_ALI bomb everyone? I knew u were a prick but this is low even for u

everyone means you too

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