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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Why does the BPM make a difference? Listening to the same ideas again and again is boring at any speed...

Well, not implying anything...it's just that Trance happens to be at 135+ bpm

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Originally posted by PETRAN The problem is about YOU/ US people. We just don't like most of this music anymore, because we are bored of it, simple as that. Our ears have "habituated" to the saw sounds/arpeggios/pads and hence trance music doesn't sound "nice" anymore. Plus, our personalities and emotions have changed, and somehow, they don't "match" this sound. People are just bored by hearing the same tricks over and over again, the saw riffs, the breakdowns, the over-dramatic melodies (i don't have a problem with it and sometimes i would listen to some modern saw trance because,srangely enough, i find it relaxing lol). This ofcourse doesn't mean that those "tricks" "don't do it" for younger generations and young people could find this music "magical" (magic music? heh)and "refreshing".

I disagree. I think there is an observable difference in quality between today's trance and it's early incarnations. Producing music in general was a much more tedious job, a task that only a chosen few knew how to handle. Today anyone with an internet connection can set up their own label thanks to the advances in the music production technology. More crap is produced nowadays because there are more poeple with the means to produce said crap. Back in the day, you just didn't have the kind of software that, among onther things, is relatively easy to work with... so that even talentless pricks can release their rubbish (check out this opus magnum: http://tranceaddict.com/forums/show...6897&forumid=11) I quit listening to trance not because I got bored of it but because it has become progressively harder for me to find decent music in this genre. And I'm just not motivated enought to be willing to search for that elusive gem in a sea of sh*t.

I think any genre gets boring and cliche if it doesn't re-invent itself. For example a person bored with A&B might start listening to tech trance like Simon Patterson or Stoneface & Terminal.

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Originally posted by creon444 I disagree. I think there is an observable difference in quality between today's trance and it's early incarnations.

yeah, but who makes trance? it's PEOPLE, and increasingly it's the fans and those who grew up listening to the real stuff, and then listening to simulations of the real stuff, and then simulations of the simulations, etc...





what it always comes down to is people.

remember, only you can prevent generifcation

till you're left with nothing but a cloned unicorn missing too many chromosomes to function

Well let's get rid of all people then. It is time to cleanse this planet. Ramen!

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Originally posted by palm what do you really mean here, sounds like a double meaning somehow, are u preaching?

I think he means that, people who listen to this stuff have often a narrow
palette in music, and listening to the same stuff all the time will
eventually kill interest.. Well, it happened to me, but I´m redeeming myself
these days! Both in terms of listening, and making myself.

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Originally posted by jupiterone till you're left with nothing but a cloned unicorn missing too many chromosomes to function

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Originally posted by jupiterone till you're left with nothing but a cloned unicorn missing too many chromosomes to function

aka every bedroom DJ trying to become the next TUNE OF THE WEEK ON ASOTTTTT

Anything will get boring if you listen to it long and often enough.

And I think today's trance is better than oldschool trance. I dunno why people think old trance is so leet. There was a lot of shitty trance back then and a lot of the tracks were just as poppy imo

I like how a lot of people who hate on trance and say it has turned into shit we're like 10 when it was supposedly "good"

Because I found music that was more interesting and engaging.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

i haven't found trance music boring as a genre, i still love complex, well-produced, hypnotic, repetitive trancey electronic music. Unfortunately none of the music labeled as 'trance' these days is any of that. There's far too much gay sing-a-long radio-friendly tripe that anyone over the age of 16 would be embarrassed to be caught listening to. I mean, look at that video for 'In And Out of Love'. My God, has Armin no shame? That has to be one of the biggest pieces of shit I have ever seen, and I even like that woman's voice.

You know who makes really good trance these days? Whirloop. That's real music. Great melodies, diversity of sounds, really can create an atmosphere with some of his tracks.

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in the end it's not about the supposed "predictability", the commercialization, or the outrageous dj superstar persona, it's just that i can't listen to the music and take it seriously. it sounds too "emotionally" overdone and too epic, to the point to where i cringe when i hear it (for the most part). every now and again it's good to bust some out though.