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Originally posted by noicuc If you ask me , the difference between Electro House And Trance is pretty straightforward. Electro house makes you want to dance , kinda like hip hop and all those dance music. Trance gives you LOTS of energy , like that alphazone song . You just want to scream xD. Anyone agree with me?

Not really. Electro house only makes me want to dance if I'm really really really really REALLY fuckin' sloshed.

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Originally posted by Sykonee Not really. Electro house only makes me want to dance if I'm really really really really REALLY fuckin' sloshed.

+1 on this one

I spin mostly various formats of trance myself but on the dancefloor I can easily enjoy myself to Techno, Minimal, House, etc. But not Electrohouse. The farty bassline and the occasional synth stabs just kill my enjoyment.

In many cases it just sounds silly to me, the same way Hardstyle tend to sound silly in the "harder" spectrum of things. So personally I find it telling that I've come across a lot of hardstyle people who enjoy electrohouse and vice versa

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Originally posted by noicuc If you ask me , the difference between Electro House And Trance is pretty straightforward. Electro house makes you want to dance , kinda like hip hop and all those dance music.

I think trance should make you want to dance, too. It's certainly possible to make trance music with a good sense of rhythm. Like this:

Marmion - "Schoneberg": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpJZNaFx8Og&fmt=18

chooooon^^^^^!

one thing i cant stand with modern trance is how "epic" some of the phrase changes are becoming. In a set of these it just gets ridiculous. I love this tracks more minimalist quality.

Alot of modern trance is still great to listen away from a club environment, its just not really dance music anymore...cant party to much of it.

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Originally posted by Johan (DJ Irish) In many cases it just sounds silly to me, the same way Hardstyle tend to sound silly in the "harder" spectrum of things. So personally I find it telling that I've come across a lot of hardstyle people who enjoy electrohouse and vice versa

A lot of 'fart' house IS hardstyle, just at 130bpm. Tell me Pears isn't.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I think trance should make you want to dance, too. It's certainly possible to make trance music with a good sense of rhythm. Like this: Marmion - "Schoneberg": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpJZNaFx8Og&fmt=18

I guess these two versions don't make you want to dance, or do they?

Personally I prefer these two versions to dance on.
Marmion remix maybe is better for dance, but I like the Man With No Name version most, although I can understand when people think this one has too many layers.

Marmion - Schoneberg (Marmion remix)

Marmion - Schöneberg (Man With No Name Remix)

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i am wondering if clubs are getting bigger crowds because of electro house as opposed to 3-5 years ago when trance might have ruled the same clubs!!!

From where I am in the early ninetees the clubs that i went to played the RAVE stuff like James brown is dead and in the ninetees one would often wait 1-3 hours to get in the club waiting in the cue.
There were always cues no matter what time.

These days its pretty much straight in after the metal detector testof course hey hey

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Originally posted by Sykonee A lot of 'fart' house IS hardstyle, just at 130bpm. Tell me Pears isn't.

Doesn't sound like hardstyle to me.



Quite a lot of goa trance uses rythmnic ideas between different parts of the bass/melody/hi hats when I think about it, as does that marmion track, probably why mwnn remixed it.

Really wish I could find Eye trippin-Force of nature on youtube. Perfect example of awesome rythmn.

A modern psy example of use of a reasonable amount of rythmn(has high quality link btw):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9UqRYIFjr0

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All EDM in the end is about getting fucked up...

90% of people in a club don't even know what the fuck is going on, what they are listening to, or who the DJ is.

The perceptions of people on this forum are those of a small percentage of the over all listenership of dance music.

Its main point is to get people in the door and buying drinks.

Thats why all-ages massives in the states are 50$ a pop, kids cant drink and drugs don't (well most of the time) make the promoter a profit.

So Trance or Electro-House, to you and me it might be something different, but to the fucked up kid or the drunk mid 20 something jock-douche hitting on the chicks shaking their rump it doesn't matter a bit.

You can thank Martin Roth, Above and Beyond, Deadmau5, Super 8 & Tab, and Armin Van Buuren's Rush Hour / This World is Watching Me for getting me in to electronic music.

Do I even need to tell you what its like to have that kind of ego trip on a song? This World is Watching Me....................

What 20 something year old in America doesn't want to hear that shit?