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Gypsy
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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Thats the problem right there....black people think its a big deal because he is black. Maybe they need to stop thinking in black and white....and start practicing what they preach to others....that they are humans just like everyone else.


That's an easy comment to make when 43 other white guys have been President. Obama is the first 'black' man to hold what is debatably the most powerful position in the Western conception of power. That serves as a statement and an example, and without a doubt makes today important.

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Originally posted by Sasha
wow... i can't believe this whole Hype around Obama. Big deal, the dude is black..

Let's elect a handicap in 4 year


the US already had a handicap president....and he didn't even get a handicap parking spot.


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quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy
That's an easy comment to make when 43 other white guys have been President. Obama is the first 'black' man to hold what is debatably the most powerful position in the Western conception of power. That serves as a statement and an example, and without a doubt makes today important.

was there that big of a hullabaloo when Margaret Thatcher became the PM of UK?


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not true. i say "ugh"
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lol colour me retarded

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quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy
That's an easy comment to make when 43 other white guys have been President. Obama is the first 'black' man to hold what is debatably the most powerful position in the Western conception of power. That serves as a statement and an example, and without a doubt makes today important.


It shouldn't matter if he is black....haven't black people been fighting for them to not be pointed out as black people and to be treated the same as everyone else? Obama should be treated as any other President....and right now he isn't. A guy in my office building said Obama is the closest thing to a Saint that he will ever see....come on....he is the president of a country not Jesus...um...I mean Tiesto.


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Gypsy
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was there that big of a hullabaloo when Margaret Thatcher became the PM of UK?


Irrelevant. I'm pretty sure the British didn't show up on Thatcher's ancestors doorstep to colonize her family.

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Irrelevant. I'm pretty sure the British didn't show up on Thatcher's ancestors doorstep to colonize her family.


how is one relevant and the other not.......they were/are both from a minority group that was not seen as equals and both came to hold the most notable position in their countries.


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Irrelevant. I'm pretty sure the British didn't show up on Thatcher's ancestors doorstep to colonize her family.

not irrelevant, if you want to compare minority elected as leading politician of a powerful nation

woman politician being elected as PM of one of the most powerful nations in the world in 1979. not relevant?


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not true. i say "ugh"
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Originally posted by kotsy
lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
It shouldn't matter if he is black....haven't black people been fighting for them to not be pointed out as black people and to be treated the same as everyone else? Obama should be treated as any other President....and right now he isn't. A guy in my office building said Obama is the closest thing to a Saint that he will ever see....come on....he is the president of a country not Jesus...um...I mean Tiesto.


I agree with you about your co-workers statement being extreme. We shouldn't ascribe to the belief that Obama is a saint; that is taking the representation too far.

However that doesn't change the fact that for radicalized groups, the collective history of self-determination within American society is still in the process of being established

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There are a few ways of looking at this.

Not only was this a celebration of the first black president, but the first president after George W. Bush. The man fucked the country hard, well not even their country but many other countries. The simple fact that Barack won on the votes of all races, shows this was not just about race, as it was about ushering in a person that people had more faith in.

This victory was amplified by the poor management of the country for the past eight years. No, there was no such fan fare for Bush, or Clinton's inauguration, just because the country was not in the sorry state it is in today.

If you are saying that 'who cares he is black, just another guy', what planet do you come from? Sure, we should be able to look past the colour of one's skin, and judge them on their merits as an individual, and their skills, but it does not happen as it should. Racial violence is still quite common in the United States, hell even blacks in Toronto have been racially profiled. For people who want to just live their lives, and be treated as regular people, and not by how much pigmentation they have in their skin, this is a concrete reminder that things are moving in the right direction.

Obama not only represents blacks, but a new breed of American citizen. One with a multinational, and multicultural background. He is from a single mother, and worked his way up. Up until now, it seemed as only power whites, with political backgrounds, and incredible wealth were able to finance a run for the presidency. No longer will people think you have to be wealthy. He raised most of his money online from a wide variety of sources, with regular people donating to his efforts. People can actually relate to the guy, that is the big deal.

Relatability is a huge factor here.

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Obama not only represents blacks, but a new breed of American citizen. One with a multinational, and multicultural background. He is from a single mother, and worked his way up. Up until now, it seemed as only power whites, with political backgrounds, and incredible wealth were able to finance a run for the presidency. No longer will people think you have to be wealthy. He raised most of his money online from a wide variety of sources, with regular people donating to his efforts. People can actually relate to the guy, that is the big deal.


I think this is the most significant aspect and the one that deserves to be most celebrated.

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Gypsy
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not irrelevant, if you want to compare minority elected as leading politician of a powerful nation

woman politician being elected as PM of one of the most powerful nations in the world in 1979. not relevant?


The idea of female leadership is not a foreign concept to the Brits. They've come through the ages under the guidance of numerous Queens. Yes, Thatcher 'ruled' in a parliamentary context, but if you take the fundamentals, the position of leadership and it being held by a female, it still isn't the same as what's happening in the States.

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I think this is the most significant aspect and the one that deserves to be most celebrated.


+1

His greatest accomplishments are what he's done and overcome in order to get into a position to even run for president...let alone get elected.


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