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EgosXII
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quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
wtf? miami to atlanta, f12, pjanoo, mousville theme and control freak are fuckin sweet as! what is wrong with you!


I like muranyi more than any of his other pryda stuff


quote:
Originally posted by derail
Professional isn't about the quality of the music, though a lot of people use the word in that way.


yeah completely agree (sad but true perhaps )


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owien
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Registered: Jan 2009
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i think its all to do with finding that balance between making good tracks and having a share off the lime lite. making a name for yourself,to the point were people get to here them,in the club on the net and even in the sreet. this to me sums up what a pro is.

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MOK
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Registered: Dec 2007
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pro = sidechain M I RITE?!

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MrJiveBoJingles
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quote:
Originally posted by MOK
pro = sidechain M I RITE?!

I already said that.

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MOK
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Eh, but seriously, the concept of pro in this context is vague, mutable, arbitrary. Trying to nail down where the line is seems silly to me.

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MOK
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I already said that.

then... I said it again cuz its IMPORTANT.

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DJ Robby Rox
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Tiestoland

quote:
Originally posted by MOK
Eh, but seriously, the concept of pro in this context is vague, mutable, arbitrary. Trying to nail down where the line is seems silly to me.


Yeh I've just always been curious at what point or what day or what happens when someone starts calling themself a "pro".

It looks like a lot of people are saying MONEY has to do with it.
The word profession is in professional and most professions people get paid for.

So than if you're not getting paid, you're never quite a pro? Thats the stupidest shit I've ever heard.

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DJ Robby Rox
Longterm Newbie



Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Tiestoland

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
What? Heres another hint, stop taking so much drugs


You said music was a trap.

People in traps don't make music, they make noise.
Same way 2 people in a trapped marraige don't make love, they just fuck.

If you think music can be made w/out love, you're not talking about music anymore. (**IMO**)

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G-Con
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Registered: Jun 2006
Location: England

Robby Rox, you have without doubt said some of the most ridiculous bullshit I have ever read on this forum in this thread.

Everything you've said

a) doesn't make sense
b) is completely wrong when it does makes sense


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DJ Robby Rox
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Registered: Apr 2007
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quote:
Originally posted by G-Con
Robby Rox, you have without doubt said some of the most ridiculous bullshit I have ever read on this forum in this thread.

Everything you've said

a) doesn't make sense
b) is completely wrong when it does makes sense


I guess you're in the same "trap" kit is in lmao!

You 2 will make excellent lawyers one day.
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DJ Robby Rox
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Tiestoland

Its funny how I come here looking for some advice because for some strange reason I assume theres smart guys in this forum (not saying there isn't but not one person has really offered any sort of in-depth explanation on the topic.

But once again google comes through!



What Does a Professional Musician Do?

A professional musician is able to support himself/herself by performing. Professional musicians may be part of a band or an orchestra. Some musicians even prefer to have their own solo act. Often, it is easier for professional musicians to make a living by performing with other musicians or singers. If a professional musician chooses to be part of a band, they may make money by performing at events like conventions, parties or weddings. Some musicians are able to get a record deal with a music label and produce music.


Areas of Study for a Professional Musician:

Many professional musicians have attended a music program at a university, college or arts college. While enrolled in a music program, students further develop their natural abilities and increase their understanding of composition and other music fundamentals. Here are some sample courses a student may take at a music program:


Music Theory
Applied Music
Music Production Workshop
Music History and Literature
Music Education
Introduction to Non-Western Types of Music
Performance-Major Instrument
Performance-Secondary Instrument
Instrumental Ensembles

At many schools, students also have the option to minor in a particular genre or style of music.


Career Outlook for Musicians:

According to those at College Board, www.collegeboard.com, government experts anticipate jobs for musicians to increase as fast as the average for all careers. However, experts warn that it may be even more difficult for those who want a solo career.


Earnings Information for Musicians:

In 2004, the musicians in the middle fifty percent earning bracket made between $9.68 and $30.75 an hour, as reported by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.


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Under this explanation I will never be a professional, even when I'm 60, because I am not going to school for music and I most likely will never do any of the above listed.
So an indie-artist who makes music for free and as a hobby will basically never be considered "pro". They simply don't spend enough time to reach the level of a true pro is what I would infer from this.

End of discussion.

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atxbigballer1
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Austin,Texas

Guess you will never be a pro Robby!
But what about some kid rapper like Soldier boy?! I think for 16 he is able to support himself off the music he makes and i don't think he ever attended a music program at a university or college but i would still call him a pro!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMycfdNdlKA


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