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Endlesswave
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Thornhill (Ontario)

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
I have a fucking epic fever right now... annoying


Feel better dude.

I haven't gotten sick really this winter/year thankfully, tail end of last year though.

I hope it stays away.


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Old Post Mar-17-2009 02:30  Cyprus
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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
As for why people get sick in the winter, there are a number of factors at hand, but the simple truth is
that the cold DOES have immune weakening effects. There are also several modes of transmission for viruses, so handwashing isn't always a guarantee. It's not going to protect you from airborne or droplet viruses. That's why people need to cover their bloody mouths when they cough or sneeze. And into the sleeve, not the hands. Ugh.

Agreed on all of this. Temperature changes and weakened immune systems are the biggest reason; assholes who spew their disease-breath all over everybody around them are the second-biggest. Hence, hand-washing is the best way to protect yourself, but it is not a guarantee, and another good supplementary means of protection is to just stay the hell away from sick mother******s who didn't have the common decency to quarantine themselves.

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Chicken soup is seriously an excellent thing to have when you're sick, because of all the garlic and salt.

And MSG. Yum!

(I'm serious, I used to finish off an entire box of that on sick days.)



quote:
And for the record, echinacea is a proven immune system stimulant, as well as an antibacterial and anti-inflammatory agent.

Claimed, not proven.


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Silky Johnson
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You're not a health care professional, you don't have any medical background, and you don't work in the healthcare field. I'm not even going to entertain an argument with you about it, lol.

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PurpleHaze
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Here's a peer-reviewed study that found Echinacea to be an aid in preventing colds, as an immunosupporter.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht...318_cold25.html

I used to take that shit in droplet form, mixed w/ a shot of water.

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Nrg2Nfinit
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Ottawa

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
You're not a health care professional, you don't have any medical background, and you don't work in the healthcare field. I'm not even going to entertain an argument with you about it, lol.


HEY!,.. you forgot to change my bedpan yet again

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jon jon
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Footwork

haha digi, best sig ever

thanks chris!


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Silky Johnson
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You don't even need a study. You can simply look at the physiological effects of it in the body, which are well documented. Diginut needs to learn when to keep his know-it-all-ism in check.

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Abercrombie
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LOL... cuz u guys go to clubs every weekend, and they are a cesspool of vile plegm laden with virulent bacteria. Congrats! That's why I avoid handlebars when walking up and down stairs and wash my hands more religiously than Cat Stevens on a Friday nafternoon.


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DigiNut
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Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
You're not a health care professional, you don't have any medical background, and you don't work in the healthcare field. I'm not even going to entertain an argument with you about it, lol.

Oh I'm sorry, I forgot that your extensive experience as a nursing student makes you almost as much of an expert on medical and epidemiological research as my prior experience in electrical engineering makes me on skyscraper construction. In other words, zilch. I presume you've graduated by now, but still, fuck right off.

I've never worked or studied in the dentistry field either, but I know that brushing my teeth prevents cavities and flossing helps prevent gingivitis. It's not that hard to look up information that's in the public domain and ask a professional (or several) when in doubt.


quote:
Originally posted by PurpleHaze
Here's a peer-reviewed study that found Echinacea to be an aid in preventing colds, as an immunosupporter.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht...318_cold25.html

A study that was not an actual independent study, but mainly combined the results of a bunch of other studies. No adequate controls, and deemed highly suspect by other researchers in the field (as the linked article itself mentions, although I already knew about this study from other sources). So yes, it was "peer reviewed", but the reviews themselves were not overwhelmingly positive.

Here are several more peer-reviewed studies that found it to have NO effect:

University of Virginia Medical School
National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine
University of Wisconsin
University of Washington (specific to children)
Medical University of South Carolina

And there was another one in Germany that I can't seem to find. Probably more that I don't even know about.

I'll also note for the record that a number of those studies linked above mention allergic reactions - for example, the one done on children reports a high incidence of rashes. Some critics complain that the dosages in those studies were too low, but when cast against the increased incidence of side-effects, those criticisms don't seem to hold much water.

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So fine, you folks think I'm full of shit, go ahead and keep wasting your money on a herb that was never even used historically as a cold medicine (some people thought it was useful for treating asthma). I just want to make it crystal clear that I'm not making any of this up.


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Silky Johnson
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Lol, you are one pathetic loser. As if you really need to assert your "rightness" that badly. Inferiority complex much?

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DigiNut
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Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

Do you actually have a point or are you just another person that resorts to smug insults whenever somebody calls you on your bullshit?


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Old Post Mar-17-2009 23:25  Canada
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Silky Johnson
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So predictable. Lol.

*there there, there there*

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