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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced They assisted in making copyright content available to be pirated which is illegal.

Used Google lately, or what about rapidfire, blogsearch, megaupload?

I'll admit that downloading is 'stealing' when politicians admit that what they do is 'murder'.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I'll admit that downloading is 'stealing' when politicians admit that what they do is 'murder'.

ya, ill admit that rainbows are cool when you admit rainbows arent gay

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

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Originally posted by samochod How come they're not wearing eye patches?

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Originally posted by samochod I don't want to make you think too hard but it always makes me laugh when ppl choose to selectively get on their high horse. For example, the animation in your avatar. What gives you the right to take someone's else artwork and use it without their expressed written permission? Or is it ok because you deem it to be ok? Those without sin cast the first stone...

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Originally posted by saluyamo Used Google lately, or what about rapidfire, blogsearch, megaupload?

He never said that he doesn't do illegal things, only that if you do you should be prepared to take the consequences. Learn to read.

I'm pretty happy about this. I hate all you cunts who sit at home stealing shit that people have worked really hard on. Not that I don't do it myself every once in a while (in fact, I stole some Marc Romboy tracks last week, but that was just to pay him back for not buying me a beer when I'd already bought him one), but I'm sick of people who steal everything and give nothing. I spend about $100 a week on music and it hurts; I could be putting that money towards something far more constructive, but because I support artists and want to keep them in business, I buy.

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Originally posted by nchs09 ya, ill admit that rainbows are cool when you admit rainbows arent gay

I'll admit it: Rainbows aren't gay.

But now that you admit they are cool, you are gay.

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Originally posted by Domesticated but because I support artists and want to keep them in business, I buy.

Except for the fact that the money you put towards their music never gets to them. If you want to support an artist, go see them. Buying their music from a retailer makes them pretty much nothing.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Except for the fact that the money you put towards their music never gets to them. If you want to support an artist, go see them. Buying their music from a retailer makes them pretty much nothing.

I do that too. Buying music is more of a principle than a practical exercise, however you're also supporting the record labels, who in turn employ producers and DJs for A&R, marketing, throw parties for their artists and DJs to play at, and generally uphold the industry.

Not only that, but if the good record labels go out of business, then a majority of artists would be forced to release their music themselves, either through a self-managed label (yay, more shitty netlabels!) or through their own website, both of which seem stupid to me. I'd prefer to keep paying, keep getting that warm, self-righteous glow, and keep seeing excellent labels promoting new talent rather than me having to spend eight hours a day on the net to find them.

Also, I'm increasingly opposed to digital format. I buy as much music as I can on CD, which is a label-based enterprise. If labels were to fall by the wayside, I'd be forced to buy shitty low-fidelity music all day with no sexy covers to go with it.

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Originally posted by Domesticated I do that too. Buying music is more of a principle than a practical exercise, however you're also supporting the record labels, who in turn employ producers and DJs for A&R, marketing, throw parties for their artists and DJs to play at, and generally uphold the industry.

I fail to see how this can't be done on a smaller, no bullshit label. The EDM industry has done an awesome job at this, as compared to the mainstream labels for Rock, R&B and Hip-Hop, Pop, etc. They actually make money and aren't getting raw deals (this is relative. I refuse to say they don't get them at all, as I know a few artist friends that have gotten fucked over) in general for the most part.

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Not only that, but if the good record labels go out of business, then a majority of artists would be forced to release their music themselves, either through a self-managed label (yay, more shitty netlabels!) or through their own website, both of which seem stupid to me. I'd prefer to keep paying, keep getting that warm, self-righteous glow, and keep seeing excellent labels promoting new talent rather than me having to spend eight hours a day on the net to find them.

While I don't disagree that without the labels, they wouldn't have some of the management, but without the massive labels like BMG, WMG, UMG, Sony, etc we wouldn't have some of these massively popular shit artists and creative control would be more in the hands of the artist.

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Also, I'm increasingly opposed to digital format. I buy as much music as I can on CD, which is a label-based enterprise. If labels were to fall by the wayside, I'd be forced to buy shitty low-fidelity music all day with no sexy covers to go with it.

I flat out disagree with this. I understand your reasoning behind it, but there are alternatives to the total shit stuff that is distributed. Uncompressed PCM wav is too large, but FLAC, or ALAC even, are VERY good alternatives. Especially FLAC since it supports 24bit 96Khz audio for the HD audio and is royalty free since it is open source and licensed under the GPL. Nine Inch Nails does this. Their "The Slip" album I downloaded direct from their website in 96Khz/24bit FLAC. It is beautiful. So clear, clean, and bit perfect to what you would buy on cd. In fact, it is HIGHER quality than what you would buy on cd.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I flat out disagree with this. I understand your reasoning behind it, but there are alternatives to the total shit stuff that is distributed. Uncompressed PCM wav is too large, but FLAC, or ALAC even, are VERY good alternatives. Especially FLAC since it supports 24bit 96Khz audio for the HD audio and is royalty free since it is open source and licensed under the GPL. Nine Inch Nails does this. Their "The Slip" album I downloaded direct from their website in 96Khz/24bit FLAC. It is beautiful. So clear, clean, and bit perfect to what you would buy on cd. In fact, it is HIGHER quality than what you would buy on cd.

I concur,I wouldn't trade my FLAC to save my life.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I fail to see how this can't be done on a smaller, no bullshit label. The EDM industry has done an awesome job at this, as compared to the mainstream labels for Rock, R&B and Hip-Hop, Pop, etc. They actually make money and aren't getting raw deals (this is relative. I refuse to say they don't get them at all, as I know a few artist friends that have gotten fucked over) in general for the most part.

The labels I had in mind were people like Kompakt, Ostgut Tontranger and Cocoon, or Blue Tunes, Iboga, HOM-Mega, Doof, Twisted etc. Mainstream labels didn't even enter my mind in regards to this conversation, simply because I have no interest in supporting them and because I don't like any of the material on their labels anyway.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel While I don't disagree that without the labels, they wouldn't have some of the management, but without the massive labels like BMG, WMG, UMG, Sony, etc we wouldn't have some of these massively popular shit artists and creative control would be more in the hands of the artist.

I agree, but again I didn't even think of those labels.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I flat out disagree with this. I understand your reasoning behind it, but there are alternatives to the total shit stuff that is distributed. Uncompressed PCM wav is too large, but FLAC, or ALAC even, are VERY good alternatives. Especially FLAC since it supports 24bit 96Khz audio for the HD audio and is royalty free since it is open source and licensed under the GPL. Nine Inch Nails does this. Their "The Slip" album I downloaded direct from their website in 96Khz/24bit FLAC. It is beautiful. So clear, clean, and bit perfect to what you would buy on cd. In fact, it is HIGHER quality than what you would buy on cd.

The joy of owning a physical release still applies here.

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Originally posted by thecreator I concur,I wouldn't trade my FLAC to save my life.

Seriously. I love FLAC so much. My buddy gave me his iPod mini he didn't want. I loaded rockbox on it today and boy am I glad. Now I just need a 32gb CF card. Flash based mp3 player for $80 and it plays all the formats you can throw at it!

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.