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First and foremost, I launch FL with the beginning of each little idea I have in my head, whether it’s a fast melody, or a drum groove to start out with� I Use FL Studio for that because I have found that the piano roll is by far the FASTEST way to “plot” my melodies and rhythms down because although I have an ear for it, I couldn’t “play” a melody to save my life. So the base of the track is composed almost entirely in FL Studio, all my piano roll / midi data is stored in FL Studio. I export each element using FL’s mixer down to their individual tracks using the “export multiple tracks” option on. Each of these tracks are then coarsely dumped into each of their respective tracks� and I begin the actual “mixing” process. I mainly use Nuendo for compatibility of course with all the studios I operate in and around� because their either Protools / Logic / or Nuendo themselves� so I like to keep my stuff portable so that im not getting stuck in a Studio that might not have FL. Even when im in the Nuendo environment my FL usage doesn’t stop there.. I load it up as a VSTi and begin building additional content for my current project� like, little funky breaks, maybe a new synth line when need be, but its always running in the background and ready for me to switch over when I need to sequence up and render out a break or phrase that wasn’t rendered out the first time I did the big multichannel export. FL Studio has, and probably will remain the main ingredient to my workflow. It’s ease of use and fast results are what get the ideas down as fast as they come to my head, and that’s really important for me. In the beginning of any of my productions, quality isn’t at the forefront of my thoughts, its getting the ideas down, then refine. One thing I love about FL studio that even the current “top notch” applications I use DOESN’T HAVE, is the ability to rearrange your chain of effects on each mixer bus� I wanted to strangle nuendo a billion times for not having FL Studios “move down / move up” option in the chain� especially when im experimenting. Experimentation is 80% of how a deadmau5 track springs up from the ground. I don’t premeditate anything I do, you wont catch me humming along to some phrase when im walking home and itching to get on FL studio so I can draw it up� I just get in my little mental zone, and start blindly plotting away melodies with the 3xosc and a little effects here and there and see what I can come up with on the fly� and when it starts to work melodically for me, I build around it, and adding in other elements, like loading in NI’s Reaktor as a VSTI into FL Studio and mangling parameters. A lot can be said by a 3xosc with a dissonant melody and the right insert effect.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja

Was this aimed at me? I never said he doesn't use FL.

And crono stop being a bitch and causing flame wars. christ

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Originally posted by coroknight And crono stop being a bitch and causing flame wars. christ

Just ignore him.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

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Originally posted by coroknight Was this aimed at me? I never said he doesn't use FL. And crono stop being a bitch and causing flame wars. christ

Yeah fuck you. In your last post you put my name to quotes I didn't even say. So why don't you stop the bullshit? You piece of crap nobody. :P

I'm going to say things how they are, if they cause a flame war, oh fucking well. Also, there is no "flame war" going on, so stop trying to insinuate that there is. A flame war is when two or more people type in all caps and randomly insult each other at every post with poorly written AOL speak [the kind of typing you do], and logical fallacies out the wang. That hasn't happened, so nobody knows what "flame war" you are talking about.

And just for fun I'm going to piss on you every time you post. Since you like to randomly attribute words to me I never said, then complain about me starting flames wars.

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Originally posted by coroknight I don't think anyone here said that FL is not capable of making music. We are talking about it's pros and cons. Deadmau5 is rumored to use a few different DAW's depending on what he wants to do including ableton, FL, reason, and cubase. And again, I don't think any of us here have said that FL cannot create anything music related, it's a music production program. Also think about the name and look of the goddamn program. Fruity Loops... Who do you think they are marketing to when they decided on that name? And then take a look at the interface. I'm not saying that looks and name matter but I just feel that the creators are marketing to beginners and wanted to create something that beginners could use and grow with. Not to mention this plugin delay problem which is a HUGE deal. To me this debate is very similar to the Virtual DJ vs. Traktor debate.

Personally , I think what you say is really true. Fruity Loops sounds kinda 'fruity'and beginner-ish.. And the interface seems to lack the 'professional' feel.

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Originally posted by 9Vibes Personally , I think what you say is really true. Fruity Loops sounds kinda 'fruity'and beginner-ish.. And the interface seems to lack the 'professional' feel.

There are a few points mentioned in this thread that i have never had a problem with , this plugin delay? i cant say ive ever experienced it. And for hardware compatibility , i have no comparison for ease but i can fully automate my SH 201's features direct from FL and just play the midi and record into the audio editer and then dump into the playlist.


And are we talking about people who use FL native stuff as newbies and unprofessional sounding?

Or does a vsti , like say vanguard, sound different on a different DAW?

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Originally posted by adi_hanson There are a few points mentioned in this thread that i have never had a problem with , this plugin delay? i cant say ive ever experienced it. And for hardware compatibility , i have no comparison for ease but i can fully automate my SH 201's features direct from FL and just play the midi and record into the audio editer and then dump into the playlist. And are we talking about people who use FL native stuff as newbies and unprofessional sounding? Or does a vsti , like say vanguard, sound different on a different DAW?

We are talking about the name and look of the program. I haven't tested it but I don't think VST's sound all that different on FL versus another DAW.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja

So I WAS right in my speculation in another thread, his mixes are originally summed through FL mixer, and then I'm guessing through an analogue console once mixing is done.

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Originally posted by adi_hanson Or does a vsti , like say vanguard, sound different on a different DAW?

Exactly!! Like as if z3ta would sound different on FL

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