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nefardec
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Re: Re: Re: clairvoyancey, spiritual healing and****..

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Will the average joe like me, who barely knows what an atom is be able to read this book? I remember a long time ago checking the description of the book and just shitting my pants with confusion.


yeah, it is written with a lot of metaphors (the hologram itself being the all-encompassing metaphor) - i think it is very easy to read if you read it with an open mind

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wing
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i haven't tried it but i've tried giving it

one day on a nice afternoon my dog got hit by a fucking car & my parents didn't take it to the vet. it was half retarded at the moment & we weren't sure whether it would make it through the night or not.

well i was planning to do lsd on that day for about a week prior to this incident so i said fuck it, might as well. 3-4 hours i come home and trip the fuck out on the computer for a while until i hear my dog screaming like hell in the other room(he tried to move off his pillow to piss or something & the pain was too much so he tumbled over, a couple feet away from his pillow. mind you he could barely walk, move, or open his eyes that evening)

so i'm tripping the fuck out(at 3-4 in the morning btw), looking at my dog looking at me & that's when i fell into some state of monk mode. just fucking laid there for who knows how long(maybe 10-30 minutes) petting my dog & used my thoughts & energy to heal his sorry ass.

he made it through the night. couple days after that he was walking & eating again & now it's like nothing even happened to him.

c0r version: lsd; went shaman mode for 30 mins; did some type of mind healing shit to my dog(had no clue whether it would even work but had nothing else to do); he made it through the night; he made a full recovery & is very much alive

maybe he was just lucky to live & i made a fool of myself for 10 - 30 mins

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Re: Re: clairvoyancey, spiritual healing and****..

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i do, mostly.



check out this book: "the holographic universe" by michael talbot

http://www.newscientist.com/article....html?full=true


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Just read this article on the concept of Holographic Universe
http://twm.co.nz/hologram.html

Gonna buy the book tonight, this stuff is intense

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wing
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Are you sure he got hit or did you just trip it...?

Like it wasn't your parents just making some weird dog noise to bad trip you was it?

From what I've heard psycadelics can be a serious potential for bad tripping cause even small things can be blown into much larger ones..

like the sound of a lawn mower, people walking around in spandex suits, military personnel patroling an area, etc...

your mind from what I hear can really wander as to what is really going on.

Because of the nature of potential hallucination - one who is tripping much seperate what is real from what is not real. And if the norm is not maintained, then how does one seperate expected occurence in the real - from fantasy?

This same issue something exists in law and politics - such as ? What is real, how do you define real?

oh and you can know both you just need to use quantum forces to track the electron. (always a smaller unit)


lol, it was around 3-4 in the morning so there wasn't much noise outside or inside & he was still barking/moaning when i got to the room

only had 1 tab so my feet was still at ground level, enough to know whether i was hallucinating it or not anyway

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Anyone who is unsure about this kind of thing needs to read Derren Brown's book "A Trick Of The Mind". It's an incredible refute of every spiritual/alternative/non-scientific healing method out there. Derren Brown has absolutely no spiritual beliefs whatsoever, and yet he knows how to do all that shit. Mediums, clairvoyants, reiki, hypnotists: he knows the material explanation for it all.


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quote:
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Anyone who is unsure about this kind of thing needs to read Derren Brown's book "A Trick Of The Mind". It's an incredible refute of every spiritual/alternative/non-scientific healing method out there. Derren Brown has absolutely no spiritual beliefs whatsoever, and yet he knows how to do all that shit. Mediums, clairvoyants, reiki, hypnotists: he knows the material explanation for it all.


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"Truth is in the eye of the beholder."

- Edmund Husserl


Who are you, trancer-x?


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nefardec
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Anyone who is unsure about this kind of thing needs to read Derren Brown's book "A Trick Of The Mind". It's an incredible refute of every spiritual/alternative/non-scientific healing method out there. Derren Brown has absolutely no spiritual beliefs whatsoever, and yet he knows how to do all that shit. Mediums, clairvoyants, reiki, hypnotists: he knows the material explanation for it all.


actually he is doing exactly what the 'spiritual' people are doing.


you're missing the point of spiritual healing. it's not so much that you are physically doing something to someone, but you are making them believe you are doing something.

Simply by through belief, the body can heal on its own.

Think of it like the placebo effect.

So this really is not a refutation, it's just another understanding of the thing.


additionally, it's worth noting that many documented psychics and clairvoyants actually had little idea of the 'uniqueness' of their gifts for some time.

imagine that the way you see the color 'red' is different than everyone else - how would you be able to verify the difference when you end up referring to the same object? so what i am saying is it's possible derren brown actually does have certain gifts but he passes them off as 'micro muscle movements' and 'subtle cues', where spiritualists may call them 'fluctuations of the energy body' etc

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Re: Re: Re: clairvoyancey, spiritual healing and****..

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http://www.newscientist.com/article....html?full=true



fascinating - thanks for the link!


what a time we live in

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