because he's a hippy.

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Oh. Well I'm not gonna argue with that.

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Originally posted by nefardec i took a knot theory class taught by a physicist and computer scientist and he agreed with me after a discussion on hyperdimensionality that time is a perceptual phenomenon of the topology of the universe.

Whoa there big fella.... I'm not sure either of us (you and I) understand what you're actually trying to say. Time is a measure of distance... if you accept that the universe has topology then you must also accept that there is distance between points within the universe, which means that time is a real thing, not a perception.

Edit... for clarity, I mean time is a real thing in a physical universe... I suppose that if there was no physical existence then there would also be no time.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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I have always considered time a measurement like any other - length, width, weight - they all have their (mostly arbitrary) units for measurement, and our units for time are no different as even a single second is standardized to the vibration of a cesium atom.

It seems to me that distance has its own units (point A to B) and that would be miles, inches, kilometers, meters, etc. Time seems more a measurement of movement than of distance, though it also seems to encompass entirely "still" (assuming such a thing is possible) entities or objects. But if our universe - our dimension, maybe - is indeed "curved" by our sensibilities, then time is merely a linear measurement of relevance to the existence of a perceptual phenomenon - not to imply that time is entirely linear or anything, but it sure makes it easier to consider it as such.

But perhaps time is indeed a measure of distance (as you said, Moral, assuming the universe is a susceptible to topographical considerations), it just isn't the 'linear' distance we are normally acquainted with.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard which means that time is a real thing, not a perception.

Hey, wait a second...

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Also, I don't really buy into the infinite worlds stuff. Wasn't that just created to solve a time travel paradoxon that indeed wasn't even a paradoxon at all?

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Then stop coloring and visit Meat187's mix archive!

I think this posting informs this discussion fairly significantly:

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/...1185196860.html

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Traveling to another time changes time in and of itself because the changes you cause in one particular timeline changes the entire timeline. You never know.

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Originally posted by Krypton Traveling to another time changes time in and of itself because the changes you cause in one particular timeline changes the entire timeline. You never know.

What the fuck?

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

Succint, yet accurate.

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Originally posted by nchs09 What the fuck?

If you travel back in time, you are traveling to what is basically a parallel universe at a different point on the timeline than when you left the present. You would likely never return to the universe you left because of the mere fact that the present you existing in a previous time would change the future, and thus change the universe you are likely to return to. You probably won't even be born, and so, on your return, no one would know you, and you'd be lost forever searching for your home universe.

Well then you've been travelling in time wrong. That's never happened to me.

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me either, i did it last week with my cat. we came home safe & sound.

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Posted by Omega_Blue that's it, fuck it i'm quitting ta forever. fuck if i'm gonna get trolled by fucking yukii. dammit!