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So I have little to no knowledge about jet propulsion/aviation etc., but if this plane was cruising at 35,000 feet, wouldn't they have time to restart the engines before crashing? I mean when you skydive from 15,000 feet you're in freefall for over 60 seconds before you even pull the parachute.


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Wouldn't the freezing of the air speed indicator just result in the air speed being unknown...surely that wouldn't cause it to crash while cruising...on landing, sure, but not at cruising altitude.


FYI guys, it's called a pitot tube...

I'm not sure that one tube freezing would be a problem since most airliners have several of them. One for each seat and a standby..

It'll be great to find out what actually happened to that flight...


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Originally posted by srussell0018
So I have little to no knowledge about jet propulsion/aviation etc., but if this plane was cruising at 35,000 feet, wouldn't they have time to restart the engines before crashing? I mean when you skydive from 15,000 feet you're in freefall for over 60 seconds before you even pull the parachute.


How do you know it was the engines??


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How do you know it was the engines??


I'm assuming a plane nose diving into the ocean is a result of the engines failing.


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I'm assuming a plane nose diving into the ocean is a result of the engines failing.


No man. That would be the last reason for that plane to go down that way...

If it was the engines, the pilot would have glided down and done a water landing as well as declare an emergency on the radio...

I think what happened to this flight is that the plane got hit bad by lightning. That would explain the no emergency call...

Either that or it had a catastrophic structural failure and the plane just broke up into pieces...

I'm wondering if the flight recorder will even provide any info at all...


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srussell0018
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No man. That would be the last reason for that plane to go down that way...

If it was the engines, the pilot would have glided down and done a water landing...


Can a roughly 500,000lb plane really glide down safely with no power?


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Old Post May-03-2011 23:02  Ireland
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Can a roughly 500,000lb plane really glide down safely with no power?


Easily...

Remember Sully and the Hudson landing??

If you lose both engines, a little generator with a propellor drops down supplying power the plane and hydraulics...


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srussell0018
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Source?

And wasn't the Hudson incident a much smaller plane that was crashing from a relatively low height? The air is pretty thin at 35,000 feet.


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Old Post May-03-2011 23:09  Ireland
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VDub
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Lol...

Look it up Rusty...

The Internet is a wonderful thing...

Teaching the principles of flight is a little much for a msg board...


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srussell0018
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Meh, I'll take your word for it, I don't feel like looking it up. Also, a small propellor/generator coming down from the bottom of a plane upon multiple engine failure isn't exactly the "principles of flight"

Part of me still thinks you made that up though...


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