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MeLLyMeL
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: In A Bathroom.

You guys are reading into this "exact song at this exact moment"

Ffs. Lol. Are u new to raving or something? If the song is epic - it will stand out.

No offense dude - but I only read the first 2 sentences. Not gonna even bother because QUITE FRANKLY ( I love stepen a smith) .. you know what you did outside the boards and I can never take what you say at face value.

Agree to disagree that pre planned sets ( and I don't know many that do ) is "" cheating.

My boyfriend always knows what first 2-3 songs he will start to play with and I know my boyfriend has good enough musical selection where it will mesh with a mushy crowd - hah!

But so many times my bf has been like "dammit I should have played this song" maybe he should have a list of songs he wants to play at his side bc flipping through cd's - is easy to look over some.


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BradMiller
Milk was a bad choice!



Registered: Aug 2005
Location: New York

I think we're actually on the same page about the set thing, have no probs with the first 2-3 songs being planned out or having good organization for choosing tracks. I think the problem was my use of the word "tracklist." I didn't mean that having a printed out piece of paper for organizing tracks was bad, only that having a pre-made setlist from start to finish was. I've seen your bf rock it out behind the decks first hand, and I know he's a great DJ.

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In regards to the other:

Mel, please know that I'm honestly sorry for that situation - it was unfortunate what happened but I want you to know that all I ever said was the truth - and what was told to me word for word. Believe it or not I was very torn over what to do, but in the end I did what I did because I would rather any of my friends tell me a hard truth than to lie to me. I don't claim to know everything about the situation or where all the pieces fit, but I don't believe in lying to a friend - which I consider you both to be.

I'd like to get in touch with you to talk more about this since I honestly didn't know that it had caused such a rift between us. Give me a call sometime and let's clear the air.


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Stassi
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Queens

how does any DJ plan his first songs when he has no idea what the previous DJ will close with?

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Zack Roth
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: .....

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
My boyfriend always knows what first 2-3 songs he will start to play with


This is the case with most djs.

DJs who tell you that they just walk into a booth and 'wing it' are either trying to sound cool, or they are lazy, and are probably playing sets that are all over the place.

If you're djing right...building a set, mixing tracks in key, mixing more than just intros and outros, then you're going to have a pretty good idea of what you want to play going into a gig. I'm not talking about having a full tracklist written out that you follow to a T. For my opening sets, I know where I want to start, I know where I want/need to end (based on what the headliner will be playing) and I have a list of tracks in my head that I know I will want to play throughout the night. Piecing it all together is the fun part, and obviously you need the crowd to vibe off in order to do that.


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Zack Roth
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quote:
Originally posted by Stassi
how does any DJ plan his first songs when he has no idea what the previous DJ will close with?


Depending on how familiar you are with the person playing before you, you can gauge (roughly) where they will end off (style wise, energy wise).

Obviously in a lot of cases you'll need to play some "segway" tracks first to get into the stuff you want to play.

But if you're a headliner, there really isn't much need to smoothly mix into the openers last track. A lot of big time djs just wait for the openers last track to wind down, then they start their intro.

For example, there is no way whatsoever that ATB didn't have his Pacha intro planned out before he went on last Friday. I'm sure he knew what the next track after it was going to be, and the track after that...

here it is btw...


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BradMiller
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Registered: Aug 2005
Location: New York

Holy crap Firestarter?!?! Jeezus I'm kicking myself for not going now. Would have killed to hear that in a club!


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mfelner29
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Registered: Oct 2006
Location: NYC Area

This thread is


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Excess
Somewhere, Out There



Registered: May 2008
Location: New Jersey



yep, looks like atb had his intro planned out.... lol

just got around to reading through this thread and i really appreciate the suggestions for my first gig. i think im going to make a list of tracks that i definitely want to play for intro/finish and a few tracks in between and then piece together the rest as i go


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DJ Eco
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Dirty Jersey

quote:
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i think im going to make a list of tracks that i definitely want to play for intro/finish and a few tracks in between and then piece together the rest as i go



Here's some more pointers for your first gig, in response to this ^^... I think I speak for most people here when I say that I don't like epic intros or anything crazy and drawn-out... The top 10 DJs in the world can start their shows with some crazy amazing tune, but I think the real art in us little guys' sets is how we carry on from the previous DJ. It's really a fun game to play, and the real music-lovers will like it if you do it well. Especially since your first gig isn't in a big club, but a lounge with other locals, people aren't really interested in the OMFG intro or mouthdropper, kinda kills the vibe actually, in my humble opinion...

Local nights, to me, have been some of the most enjoyable to play. One gig I had was playing the basement at Shelter from 2-430AM before and after guys like Deepspell, Billy Disciple, and some others. I showed up and sure enough, they all decided to throw the timeslots out the window and just tagteam. I was pissed at first, but ended up having a lot of fun being part of the musical journey we were collaborating on.


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Excess
Somewhere, Out There



Registered: May 2008
Location: New Jersey

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
Here's some more pointers for your first gig, in response to this ^^... I think I speak for most people here when I say that I don't like epic intros or anything crazy and drawn-out... The top 10 DJs in the world can start their shows with some crazy amazing tune, but I think the real art in us little guys' sets is how we carry on from the previous DJ. It's really a fun game to play, and the real music-lovers will like it if you do it well. Especially since your first gig isn't in a big club, but a lounge with other locals, people aren't really interested in the OMFG intro or mouthdropper, kinda kills the vibe actually, in my humble opinion...



shit there goes my epic 3 minute long symphony intro....back to the drawing board...

in all seriousness that'd be majorly egotistical on my end. people arent coming out to see me, especially me. everyone confirmed is a product of promotion from the other DJ's so far ahah. i already have my intro track picked out and trust me, it's far from epic :P

my real worry is if the venue will limit the type of my music that i can play. a lot of TA's are coming out but for a lounge i feel like there's definitely a bpm or intensity barrier, ahah


ughhh...thread jacking isn't something i like doing :P


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Jason Jollins
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: New York City

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coolestrl
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Registered: Mar 2008
Location: New York, New York

quote:
Originally posted by zizack


here it is btw...



zack thats not the opening, thats something he was doin in MID set, which i thought was really awesome, i recorded that vid btw, in the opening he had some countdown in his own voice which went like 10..9...8..7....

then he dropped the first track whatever it was

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