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MrJiveBoJingles
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quote:
Originally posted by supersaw abuse
i'm afraid not. it's called "crunkcore" and involves the whitest kids you can possibly imagine dropping phat rhymes over electro beats. also see:

Last one was actually pretty catchy.

This stuff doesn't really depress me because it's so obviously a bunch of kids being silly and having a laugh. Just stupid fun IMO.

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supersaw abuse
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Last one was actually pretty catchy.

i was thinking the same thing but was ashamed to admit it

quote:
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This stuff doesn't really depress me because it's so obviously a bunch of kids being silly and having a laugh. Just stupid fun IMO.

eh, i guess. i think some of it is kind of offensive though in how it re-appropriates rap, an integral part of black culture, while simultaneously stripping it of the very elements that actually make it so interesting. iirc brokencyde actually say "nigga" in a couple of their songs

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MrJiveBoJingles
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i think some of it is kind of offensive though in how it re-appropriates rap, an integral part of black culture...

Rap itself (or hip hop more broadly I guess) is all about re-appropriation. It's an art form that started out by reusing old beats in new musical contexts, and still does so today. And as far as I can tell they're mostly re-appropriating a kind of rap (crunk) that isn't exactly known for its lasting cultural value or ingenuity. I think some black people would even be offended or at least annoyed to see crunk used as a representative example of "black culture."

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supersaw abuse
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Rap itself (or hip hop more broadly I guess) is all about re-appropriation. It's an art form that started out by reusing old beats in new musical contexts, and still does so today. And as far as I can tell they're mostly re-appropriating a kind of rap (crunk) that isn't exactly known for its lasting cultural value or ingenuity. I think at least some black people would even be offended or at least annoyed to see crunk used as a representative example of "black culture."

haha yeah i'm certainly not claiming that soulja boy should be viewed as an ambassador of black culture. and i have nothing wrong with white people rapping; it's a form of music that lends itself to expression about a wide range of issues. it's just that the attitude of crunkcore is about the emulation of a culture that middle class white teenagers do not - and cannot - understand. it's the same attitude that leads to "ghetto parties" where white people dress up "like black people" - excessive jewelry, loose fitting clothing, etc. - and even sometimes go full blackface. if these kids think it's acceptable for them, as white people, to call each other "nigga", it's not too far away.

maybe i'm just hypersensitive on this issue, i dunno

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Re: Is MTV planning market trance the way they market hip hop?

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there'd be trance versions of Chingy and Soulja Boy.



Hold the phone... we don't already have trance versions of Soulja Boy? If MTV creates something more cheesy than Oakenfold, then we've already lost.


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Hold the phone... we don't already have trance versions of Soulja Boy? If MTV creates something more cheesy than Oakenfold, then we've already lost.



give me some time and i'll dredge up something Even Worse

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Re: Re: Is MTV planning market trance the way they market hip hop?

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Hold the phone... we don't already have trance versions of Soulja Boy? If MTV creates something more cheesy than Oakenfold, then we've already lost.

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give me some time and i'll dredge up something Even Worse


Please don't!

On the other hand, MTV should play more Donk.

Edit: Regarding UWM - I'm bald (RJT's I'm balder Mix), has anyone noticed how many people in that video are indeed bald?


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Hmm so someone decided to recommend me (now on my hitlist) the slightly catchier version of brokeNCYDE


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EDIT: I just now saw 'Supersaw Abuse' 's post, but yeah, pretty much.....

quote:
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this is what the cool kids are listening to these days anyway:



that's as bad as this shit I just saw yesterday:





WHAT THE FUCK


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it would seem that this thread is now rather conclusively about crunk-core

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