Virus has multiple synthesis methods as well, I think. I don't think it's very "generic," either, since it has more programming options than just about any synth on the market. I also don't think it's the "ultimate synth" or anything like some people, though.

Sixofour have you tried a Virus synth ?

Because if you havent you shouldnt be talking at all.

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Originally posted by sixofour.604 And because of the hype [yeah, hype] the synth gets because it has nice presets. When you get to the nitty griddy of it, its a pretty generic synth. With pretty geniric sounds, used primarly by people who make pretty generic music [trance, pop, hiphop, etc...]

"Generic" is pretty subjective, but yeah, you have a point. 10 years ago, the Virus was more unique in terms of its sound, but with the hordes of other HW/SW VAs on the market now, many of which sound very much like a Virus, it's uniqueness has been diluted considerably. The TI feature is what really sets it apart from the crowd IMO. If/when other synth manufacturers start to add similar features, the Virus won't be as special and will probably lose a share of its market, unless Access comes up with something else to keep them ahead of the crowd (analog version?).

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Besides, "multiple synthesis methods" isn't exactly a very high bar to clear. It seems like just about any modern digital subtractive synth will have some FM capability.

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Originally posted by cryophonik "Generic" is pretty subjective, but yeah, you have a point. 10 years ago, the Virus was more unique in terms of its sound, but with the hordes of other HW/SW VAs on the market now, many of which sound very much like a Virus, it's uniqueness has been diluted considerably. The TI feature is what really sets it apart from the crowd IMO. If/when other synth manufacturers start to add similar features, the Virus won't be as special and will probably lose a share of its market, unless Access comes up with something else to keep them ahead of the crowd (analog version?).

An analog version of the Virus would be gigantic, LOL, especially if you wanted to keep its massive polyphony. Maybe analog filters or something?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles An analog version of the Virus would be gigantic, LOL, especially if you wanted to keep its massive polyphony. Maybe analog filters or something?

Analog Filters and VCO's. I think VCO's sound better than DCO's.

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Originally posted by cryophonik You're 2 for 4. You've gotten some of the obvious ones having that typical Virus supersaw lead sound, but you've missed a ton of the others, many of which are very prominent. For example, (without giving away the answer) one of the first two songs is dominated by Virus sounds, but they don't sound like the huge Virus leads that many people have become accustomed to hearing and recognizing. Regardless, that runs counter to your assertion that any song containing a Virus is instantly recognizable. In other words, a Virus doesn't have to sound like a huge arpeggiated lead sound - it's a very versatile synth and I doubt that even the guys at Access could tell you definitively whether or not a custom patch in a song is a Virus or not. And, to your credit, some of the sounds that you thought were a Virus were admittedly programmed to sound like a typical Virus supersaw lead (as were several others that you didn't identify/may not have even listened to). But, that just adds weight to my opinion that, in reality, a Virus isn't all that unique in terms of its "sound" - it can sound like a LOT of things and a lot of other synths can sound like a Virus.

i did only listen a 10-20 seconds of 50% of the tracks, I could probably find alot more if i listened carefully but u got my point. Also my point with that u can do the same with a VST u actualy proved here imo.

First thing i listen after to spot a virus is its terrible phasor which is in almost every preset. omg i hate that. Ofcourse u can hide its characteristic by not using its efex but then u only got a synth as good as synth1 VST.

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Originally posted by palm First thing i listen after to spot a virus is its terrible phasor which is in almost every preset. omg i hate that. Ofcourse u can hide its characteristic by not using its efex but then u only got a synth as good as synth1 VST.

Hey, I LIKE its phaser! But, yeah, it is a bit...uhhh...thick.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles An analog version of the Virus would be gigantic,...

...so would the price tag.

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Originally posted by palm First thing i listen after to spot a virus is its terrible phasor which is in almost every preset. omg i hate that. Ofcourse u can hide its characteristic by not using its efex but then u only got a synth as good as synth1 VST.

The delay itself sounds better than any synth i have tried.

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