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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7

Also, this

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Originally posted by Akridrot I used to think this way too. It is an easy trap to fall into.

What "trap" have I fallen into? I pointed out that the African American population has lived under quite different legal and social conditions from the majority of the white population for most of U.S. history, and that for this reason celebrations of African American culture and white culture would have very different connotations. Can you point out what is incorrect about that?

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced stop living in the past....that argument is no longer valid.

Arguments come with expiration dates?

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Originally posted by Domesticated What, so because some people were enslaved three generations ago they deserve a condescending, trite website offering them 'opportunities' and only reminding them once again that the white population sees them as 'different' from themselves?

I didn't say anything about the website. I haven't even looked at it, in fact. I was responding to the guy's notion that the situations of blacks and whites are equivalent.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles What "trap" have I fallen into? I pointed out that the African American population has lived under quite different legal and social conditions from the majority of the white population for most of U.S. history, and that for this reason celebrations of African American culture and white culture would have very different connotations. Can you point out what is incorrect about that?

Plainly put, I don't see the reason for celebrating African American (or any other) culture the way we celebrate it in America. Even Morgan Freeman agrees with me:


I don't care what conditions a group of people lived in during the past, this level of "celebration" is bordering on "glorification" and that's the problem.

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Originally posted by The17sss

we would suck obama's dick so hard. he's the MAN

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by Akridrot Plainly put, I don't see the reason for celebrating African American (or any other) culture the way we celebrate it in America. Even Morgan Freeman agrees with me:

While I don't really agree with his reasoning (does having MLK day or Presidents' Day mean we don't remember Martin Luther King or U.S. presidents the rest of the year?), even if we got rid of the designated "month," would it be inappropriate for blacks to celebrate the fact that their ancestors labored under awful conditions for centuries in this country and still managed to get to where they are today? I don't think so, do you? Or should everyone simply forget about all the negative things that happened in the past?

[Edit: And I am not saying that people should use history as an excuse for disappointments or laziness in their own lives, just that the celebration of triumph over hardships, and in this case fairly unique ones in the U.S., is perfectly appropriate.]

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles [Edit: And I am not saying that people should use history as an excuse for disappointments or laziness in their own lives, just that the celebration of triumph over hardships, and in this case fairly unique ones in the U.S., is perfectly appropriate.]

Alright, it's a good thing you say that because now I know we agree on this part.

My only point is:

You can have a celebration at any time of year. Do it as much as you like. Just don't expect or force me to celebrate your history with you.

My opinion is that celebration can be excessive (365black? really? lol) and it can lead to glorification in the end. It can lead to feelings of superio-- well, you see where I'm going with this.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles What "trap" have I fallen into? I pointed out that the African American population has lived under quite different legal and social conditions from the majority of the white population for most of U.S. history, and that for this reason celebrations of African American culture and white culture would have very different connotations. Can you point out what is incorrect about that?

Social or cultural discrimination based on skin colour or ethnic background is racism, whether that discrimination is positive or negative. Celebrating "[skin colour] culture" is discriminatory, whatever the colour, whatever the connotations.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Social or cultural discrimination based on skin colour or ethnic background is racism, whether that discrimination is positive or negative. Celebrating "[skin colour] culture" is discriminatory, whatever the colour, whatever the connotations.

I was talking about celebrating a history -- the history of those who had ancestors enslaved in America -- not celebrating "blackness" itself.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I was talking about celebrating a history -- the history of those who had ancestors enslaved in America -- not celebrating "blackness" itself.

You said "culture", not "history".

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