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Originally posted by ***** other than rapping there is nothing urban about the songs you posted digi Planet Rock also contains more edm elements than urban imo. most people call Planet rock a dance song not a hip hop song Even tho its a old song I dont think its dated it still sounds good

um.. believe it or not, I happen to know Afrika Bambaataa. I've brought him to Toronto 3 times and done 3 Canadian tours with him... driving across Ontario and Quebec. The stories he has are amazing!

Planet Rock sampled Kraftwerk "trans-europe express".

Planet Rock is most definitely not dance music.. The Hip Hop movement then was about dancing and b-boying.. still doesn't make in dance music in the sense the way that you know it.

Planet rock is most definitely hip hop. Hip hop in those days didn't have a specific sound. it borrowed from elements of funk, disco, rock among other genres. What people consider urban music now, didn't even exist in 1982. Planet Rock spawned electro funk, miami bass, freestyle among other genres, not to mention pushing hip hop into the mainstream.

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Originally posted by ***** Trance did not start in north America Trance EDM roots are from Europe imo

haha...u're funny mr. read my last sentence

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Originally posted by ***** Most of these edm & urban artist that will do this kind of production/ music will fail because they lack the knowledge of each other music they will do it as a gimmick or for a cheque & not from there hearts. I should Have made this the last part of my thread but my big secret thread is even bigger then Tiesto copying my style

and then you go and say shit like this...

I really need to start reading the whole thread before I respond...

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Originally posted by chinamon chinamon is INCH MOAN. LOL so fitting.

It can be really good but really bad.

Really good if:

-Its commercial music and stays within the commercial scene
-produced by new artists
-doesnt not take over the genre squeezing out real house and techno

Really bad if:

-Underground DJs and serious parties start playing this sound
-Established artists produce this and nothing else (starting to happen but i could care less about guetta and tiestical)
-this sound takes over everything else

I dont mind it if done properly. Trance and Euro used to be the gateway into house and techno. This isnt much different. The potential is there though for everyone to catch the bandwagon much like what happened with so called "electro" and that would be bad

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Originally posted by Intangible MEGA WTF!!!! EDM started as 'black ( and gay) music'

+1

anyone who calls dance music a white music doesnt know their history and comes off a noob

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Originally posted by ***** Trance did not start in north America Trance EDM roots are from Europe imo

Trance is an evolution of techno (from detroit) and disco/house(New York) that flourished in the New York gay scene and then later Manchester England. Most of the original trance DJs were gay black men.

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Originally posted by DigiNut house music in its infancy was almost totally dominated by blacks as it evolved from the funk/soul movement.

Im talking Trance here dude House is technically a form of hip hop not the other way around House djs copied what Hip hop djs did

Trance Music was its own style that was copied by others

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Originally posted by DigiNut While I'm the furthest thing from PC and pretty much everybody here can confirm that, you seem to divide everything along racial lines. If it's made by white people then it must be EDM. If it's made by black people then it's urban. That, again, is completely retarded.

Your reading & comprehension skills are worse than mine

eminem is not edm because hes white, he is urban because he makes ..... music

race as well as religion ethnicity enviornment are all factors in the music

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Originally posted by DigiNut Besides, aren't you white?.

if you want to know what I look like you have to pay or wait

I do look like a nerd You could never define who I am by the way I look or how I dress

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Originally posted by DigiNut How is it that you think you know so much about blacks and their music and culture?

I never said black I said hip hop, you said urban I guess you did mean black

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew I love it when Aaron swears

Posting bad productions and lame comments aren't the only way to get me to swear. If you follow.

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Originally posted by ***** Im talking Trance here dude House is technically a form of hip hop not the other way around House djs copied what Hip hop djs Trance Music never copied it was its only strle that was copied by others

I stopped reading here. I think if I read the rest I might suffer permanent brain damage. I accidentally read two words and started projectile vomiting.

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Originally posted by DigiNut I stopped reading here. I think if I read the rest I might suffer permanent brain damage. I accidentally read two words and started projectile vomiting.

Honestly read it. I couldn't stop laughing.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 anyone who calls dance music a white music doesnt know their history and comes off a noob

I dont listen to dance music I listen to Trance Music theres a difference

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Originally posted by DigiNut Kind of hard for us to take you seriously when you come right out and say that trance is not EDM (electronic music).

Trance existed b4 the electronic elements were added, Trance as a style of music is older than you know thats why it can reach your mind body & soul

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Originally posted by DigiNut You weren't doing it before the pros were, you're not a trendsetter, and your bullshit comments about how all of the major producers will fail because they're not doing it "from the heart" is so much bombastic emotional masturbation

I have done it b4 them actually I been doing it & showing you what more proof do you need?

music only means something when it comes from the heart thats why you all love trance music because it comes from the heart & stimulates your mind soul & bodies, major producers will fail at making sonically creative songs ( new producers will come in & replace the old ones)but monetarily they will get rich off it

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Originally posted by activate Planet Rock sampled Kraftwerk "trans-europe express

thats one of the first Trance songs ever Kraftwerk are one of the founding fathers of Trance

Look At The Song Title

Trans
Europe
Xpress

Trance made in Europe influenced by X

Trance is a genre on its own that influenced House Techno Hip Hop etc & other EDM genres but it is a genre of its own

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Originally posted by ***** Look At The Song Title Trans Europe Xpress Trance made in Europe influenced by X

Wow. Apparently you're not only a moron, you're a paranoid conspiracy theorist moron.


FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_Europ_Express

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