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Originally posted by david.michael Why?

beacuse i use atleast 20-30 minutes to get into the state of mind i want to and when im first there id like to be there for a few hours, not 5 minutes. theres nothing wrong with progression though slowly from one style to another style, but to change instantly every 5 minutes just makes me loose the whole vibe of things. i cant really tell if an edm track is good before i hear it in a mix anymore. and that is beacuse edm music isnt at all stand alone music anymore as it where (sometimes) in the early 90s (daft punk, prodigy and underworld?)
damn i cant explain it any better lol.

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Originally posted by palm beacuse i use atleast 20-30 minutes to get into the state of mind i want to and when im first there id like to be there for a few hours, not 5 minutes. theres nothing wrong with progression though slowly from one style to another style, but to change instantly every 5 minutes just makes me loose the whole vibe of things. i cant really tell if an edm track is good before i hear it in a mix anymore. and that is beacuse edm music isnt at all stand alone music anymore as it where (sometimes) in the early 90s (daft punk, prodigy and underworld?) damn i cant explain it any better lol.

I see where you're coming from. I just guess that there are plenty of tracks which I could see working well even when changing genres (some tech mixes well with some prog, some prog mixes well with some deep, etc.)

I'm more interested in hearing sets in which genre is not a deciding factor in the track selection, and yet still maintains the type of flow you speak of.

well im not into genres myself, its more style somehow. i like it repeatative whether it be trance, techno, prog, house whatever, and sometimes these can be mixed good together but i rarely hear that. what usualy happen when u mix house and trance and techno is that u get the worst of all the genres and end up with minimal tech trance which is the worst genre ever imo (david gueato, etc)

This song in question is amazing. LOVE IT!!

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley Every artist thinks Beatport is the holy grail despite the factual numbers I feed them proving Beatport is no longer the #1 download site. (It is Juno)

Is this actually true?

Whilst I have no hard evidence to the contrary, I have always heard that Beatport has something like 80% of the dance music download market with the remaining 20% shared between all the others.

I've never heard of Juno having any kind of siginificant share.

Do you have any links to backup that Juno is the number one? Or have I misunderstood your post?

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Originally posted by G-Con Is this actually true? Whilst I have no hard evidence to the contrary, I have always heard that Beatport has something like 80% of the dance music download market with the remaining 20% shared between all the others. I've never heard of Juno having any kind of siginificant share. Do you have any links to backup that Juno is the number one? Or have I misunderstood your post?

www.compete.com


www.juno.co.uk
www.junodownload.com
www.beatport.com

Visitors does not equal sales. My royalties have been quite consistent on this matter. Beatport is good for about 75-85% on all the statements I have received since my first release in 2005.

Well, at first there was EDMDigital as well which went bankrupt shortly after.

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If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

Believe what you like then. Beatport has, until the turn of the year, been the most used, but now they're getting blown away. If you have evidence (numbers) to support what you've said, then please do. You're isolated numbers really don't matter, either. Were your tracks Beatport exclusive? Was Beatport, and no other distributor, plastered all over your labels myspace, your myspace, and all your signatures?

I have personally bought my music from everywhere but Beatport, but gladly used their bandwith to listen to new music.

Unique ID visits is the strongest evidence I can give. I've talked with many other labels regarding the issue who will say the same as I, but gossip is what it is and I'm not here to spread it. I find it funny when an artist thinks 80% of their sales will come from Beatport. They are either represented by a terrible label, completely clueless, or both.

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Originally posted by palm beacuse i use atleast 20-30 minutes to get into the state of mind i want to and when im first there id like to be there for a few hours, not 5 minutes. theres nothing wrong with progression though slowly from one style to another style, but to change instantly every 5 minutes just makes me loose the whole vibe of things. i cant really tell if an edm track is good before i hear it in a mix anymore. and that is beacuse edm music isnt at all stand alone music anymore as it where (sometimes) in the early 90s (daft punk, prodigy and underworld?) damn i cant explain it any better lol.

I totally agree with this statement especially cause new and upcoming DJs do this all the time.

I like a set that feels like its progressing to something rather than jumping about just showing off the latest tunes. I find it rather ridiculous to hop around styles so rapidly and its a real turn off to me when i am listneing to a set. I like to get in that state of mind and jsut float away into a set like its seemless and flows like water.

An example of a good set:

Markus Schulz - Toronto 09 (CD 1) has a top notch progression and probably the best compilation CDs i have heard in a long time because it really takes you on a journey

CD 2 was good too but not as good as CD 1.

his CDs: Miami 05, Ibiza 06, Amsterdam 08, are also all very on point.

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley Believe what you like then. Beatport has, until the turn of the year, been the most used, but now they're getting blown away. If you have evidence (numbers) to support what you've said, then please do. You're isolated numbers really don't matter, either. Were your tracks Beatport exclusive? Was Beatport, and no other distributor, plastered all over your labels myspace, your myspace, and all your signatures?

It's not a matter of believing, but of asking around in your network and just looking at the $ figures . And to answer the other questions: no,no (I rarely use my myspace and nobody visits my website ),just my signatures here on TA.

Try and hook up with a proper distributor or something to get you on BP and you'll see for yourself

[edit] What I forgot to mention is that certain sites seem to perfomr well within a certain genre. BP does well on Electro House and Progressive house. I think it's audiojelly and trackitdown whom specialise more in trance music. Maybe Juno does very well in a genre I don't ahve anything to do with which in turn could justify the sales difference between Juno & Beatport.

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If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

Last edited by Storyteller on Sep-03-2009 at 10:25