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Originally posted by Subtle Drum and bass mixed with psy trance.. omg Just the thought of that makes me drool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4R1nl_UbSk

almost therehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I4JGcY8U28

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Originally posted by RichieV unless they changed the definition of irony last night, I really don't get what is so ironic. If that seems rediculous to you, it is because you think music is production. I feel really sorry for those with their head in the sand that are missing out on so many things because they have horse blinders on. ----There are some studies done by Huron that show that people , lets just say dim witted, experience a rewarding feeling listening to the same music because their expectations are always fulfilled and each song is really pseudo individualization. Others enjoy something new that although physiologically presents a negative reactive is overcome by the joyfull act of using your brain. --- my original post was a light hearted sideswipe with the phenomenon of people getting so stuck into genres and because every style has their ebb and flow of quality, they just end up listening to alot of shit for alot of years. This is probably common to most people that feel attached to a particular genre because they identify with it as a person. It usually doesn't have too much to do with actual music. I don't want to get into a discussion about aesthetics and what Kant has to say but you will be a better producer if you stop trying to be a trance producer. Learn the most salient things from each style of music you like. That is how you develop style. LIstening to only trance is how you become so oblivious of other musical devices that are , well always an opinion, alot more interesting and challenging.

I couldn't agree more with you Richie. You truly know what you're talking about.

Go listen to some Hans Zimmer people.

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Originally posted by lenieNt Force I couldn't agree more with you Richie. You truly know what you're talking about. Go listen to some Hans Zimmer people.

i do

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Originally posted by RichieV unless they changed the definition of irony last night, I really don't get what is so ironic. If that seems rediculous to you, it is because you think music is production. I feel really sorry for those with their head in the sand that are missing out on so many things because they have horse blinders on. ----There are some studies done by Huron that show that people , lets just say dim witted, experience a rewarding feeling listening to the same music because their expectations are always fulfilled and each song is really pseudo individualization. Others enjoy something new that although physiologically presents a negative reactive is overcome by the joyfull act of using your brain. --- my original post was a light hearted sideswipe with the phenomenon of people getting so stuck into genres and because every style has their ebb and flow of quality, they just end up listening to alot of shit for alot of years. This is probably common to most people that feel attached to a particular genre because they identify with it as a person. It usually doesn't have too much to do with actual music. I don't want to get into a discussion about aesthetics and what Kant has to say but you will be a better producer if you stop trying to be a trance producer. Learn the most salient things from each style of music you like. That is how you develop style. LIstening to only trance is how you become so oblivious of other musical devices that are , well always an opinion, alot more interesting and challenging.

Okay that is a long way from your post basically saying "people need to focus more on groove/shuffle manupulations and unquantitized midi more than sound design." You completely changed the topic with this post.

I do agree with the last paragraph though to an extent.

FYI Trance isnt the only thing I listen to, only the most frequent. House, Progressive, Electro, Hip-hop, Rap, Alternative, Hard Rock, Metal, i listen to all of these if not more and quite familiar with them all.

But I must say that the last 5 do not have any influence when it comes to my productions.

Not really gonna get inspiration for a trance or house track by listening to metal.

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

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Originally posted by Nightshift Okay that is a long way from your post basically saying "people need to focus more on groove/shuffle manupulations and unquantitized midi more than sound design." You completely changed the topic with this post. I do agree with the last paragraph though to an extent. FYI Trance isnt the only thing I listen to, only the most frequent. House, Progressive, Electro, Hip-hop, Rap, Alternative, Hard Rock, Metal, i listen to all of these if not more and quite familiar with them all. But I must say that the last 5 do not have any influence when it comes to my productions. Not really gonna get inspiration for a trance or house track by listening to metal.

why? metal has some intresting elements in them these days. i think the hole point trying to be made here is widen your musical tastes.

you dont have to directly listen to punk rock then sit down and make a trance track.

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Originally posted by owien why? metal has some intresting elements in them these days. i think the hole point trying to be made here is widen your musical tastes. you dont have to directly listen to punk rock then sit down and make a trance track.

oh if only he knew just how wide my musical tastes are.

but im done arguing this i made my point and im moving on. arguing in forums is counterproductive & doesnt get a track done, let alone signed.

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

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Originally posted by Nightshift oh if only he knew just how wide my musical tastes are. but im done arguing this i made my point and im moving on. arguing in forums is counterproductive & doesnt get a track done, let alone signed.

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Originally posted by owien its all for the lozzzz

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

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Originally posted by Subtle Drum and bass mixed with psy trance.. omg Just the thought of that makes me drool.

You mean like John B's "Trance and Bass" album from '02? Lol...

The trance/psy sound has been pervading D'n'B for a while now. It was inevitable, since breaks and jungle have absorbed almost every other genre (including rock and other mainstream genres).

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